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Created by: Reason
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2023
Published: Feb. 24, 2023
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Ian Clark was apparently pushing hard for Blomqvist in his draft year. If the Canucks end up trading Demko in the next few years it would be wise to add a few more goalie prospects to the system.
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  1. Blomqvist, Joel [Reserve List]
  2. 2023 5th round pick (PIT)
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22$82,500,000$74,866,528$1,250,000$1,865,000$7,633,472
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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LD
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 4
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
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UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Feb. 24, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.
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demko rumors seem to be put to bed and thats the only way id see this move happening
Feb. 24, 2023 at 10:23 p.m.
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Quoting: BenningTruther
demko rumors seem to be put to bed and thats the only way id see this move happening


I doubt Demko is traded this season, and I actually think it would be a poor idea to move him while his value may be down. That said, if management has made the determination that they wont be competing while Demko is in his prime or that they want to move on for other reasons, then I think this trade makes lots of sense. Demko is 28 this year, Blomqvist just turned 21. Goalies often take more time to develop, even if you think Demko will be here for the next 4 years it's still best to add some prospects sooner than later if your going to need to wait 4-5 years for them to make the NHL.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 10:44 p.m.
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It’s going to cost a lot more than a 6/7 defenseman and 5th round pick to get Blomqvist
Feb. 24, 2023 at 10:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Reason
I doubt Demko is traded this season, and I actually think it would be a poor idea to move him while his value may be down. That said, if management has made the determination that they wont be competing while Demko is in his prime or that they want to move on for other reasons, then I think this trade makes lots of sense. Demko is 28 this year, Blomqvist just turned 21. Goalies often take more time to develop, even if you think Demko will be here for the next 4 years it's still best to add some prospects sooner than later if your going to need to wait 4-5 years for them to make the NHL.


Yeah getting a top goalie prospect for a 6/7th dman and a 5th round pick would make sense for the Canucks. But makes less than zero sense for the pens.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 1:05 a.m.
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Pens decline
Feb. 25, 2023 at 1:29 a.m.
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Yeah getting a top goalie prospect for a 6/7th dman and a 5th round pick would make sense for the Canucks. But makes less than zero sense for the pens.


Blomqvist isn't rated on a single top NHL affiliated prospect rankings that I can find, and many of them show the top 100 rated prospects. The Pen's have one of the worst prospect pools in the league, the Athletic has them rated at #29, and Blomqvist is probably their 3rd or 4th best prospect. Blomqvist may be worth a 3rd round pick, reports suggest Schenn likely goes for a 3rd or possibly a late 2nd. Pretty fair value.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 2:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Reason
Blomqvist isn't rated on a single top NHL affiliated prospect rankings that I can find, and many of them show the top 100 rated prospects. The Pen's have one of the worst prospect pools in the league, the Athletic has them rated at #29, and Blomqvist is probably their 3rd or 4th best prospect. Blomqvist may be worth a 3rd round pick, reports suggest Schenn likely goes for a 3rd or possibly a late 2nd. Pretty fair value.


What some schmuck believes prospects are ranked vs what the pens feel about Blomqvist are two different things. Blomqvist is the best goalie prospect for the pens and is the likely heir apparent to the crease. They aren’t trading that for a 6/7th dman that some schmuck thinks might be worth the same value. Especially a pens team not going anywhere this year and has 5 RHD already.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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What some schmuck believes prospects are ranked vs what the pens feel about Blomqvist are two different things. Blomqvist is the best goalie prospect for the pens and is the likely heir apparent to the crease. They aren’t trading that for a 6/7th dman that some schmuck thinks might be worth the same value. Especially a pens team not going anywhere this year and has 5 RHD already.


I always have a laugh when I hear people say that reporters rankings are essentially worthless and they and the rest of their teams fans know more. There are lots of well respected insiders out there with plenty of NHL personnel contacts that take their work seriously and do their research before compiling and publishing their lists. Then the homer Capfriendly fans call them things like "Schmuck's", because im sure these homers have watched all their teams prospects play significant minutes and have a similar ability to NHL personnel to determine who is likely to developer into a NHL player... I dunno that sounds pretty "Schmuck'ish" to me...
Feb. 25, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Reason
I always have a laugh when I hear people say that reporters rankings are essentially worthless and they and the rest of their teams fans know more. There are lots of well respected insiders out there with plenty of NHL personnel contacts that take their work seriously and do their research before compiling and publishing their lists. Then the homer Capfriendly fans call them things like "Schmuck's", because im sure these homers have watched all their teams prospects play significant minutes and have a similar ability to NHL personnel to determine who is likely to developer into a NHL player... I dunno that sounds pretty "Schmuck'ish" to me...


I never said their rankings were worthless or that I even knew more about any other teams prospects. So I think it’s a schmuckish thing to do to make assumptions and put words in peoples mouths. What I do have an idea as a fan though is what my teams prospects do and how the organization views them. So like I said, the pens organization views Blomqvist higher than they’d view someone who’d come in and be our 4th or 5th best RHD and likely doesn’t get ice time plus a draft pick on top of him. Hextall has been known to also not trade for rentals and typically only trades for players that have term or he knows he has a good chance to re-sign. He also will only pay to bring in players that will help the team. There’s no logical reason that he’d trade the teams best goalie prospect for a guy that will only get into the line up if two defensemen get hurt. Especially when the teams starting goaltender is injury prone and a pending UFA, the backup and 3rd string are garbage, and the prospect system as you say is terrible.
Feb. 25, 2023 at 11:36 p.m.
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I never said their rankings were worthless or that I even knew more about any other teams prospects. So I think it’s a schmuckish thing to do to make assumptions and put words in peoples mouths. What I do have an idea as a fan though is what my teams prospects do and how the organization views them. So like I said, the pens organization views Blomqvist higher than they’d view someone who’d come in and be our 4th or 5th best RHD and likely doesn’t get ice time plus a draft pick on top of him. Hextall has been known to also not trade for rentals and typically only trades for players that have term or he knows he has a good chance to re-sign. He also will only pay to bring in players that will help the team. There’s no logical reason that he’d trade the teams best goalie prospect for a guy that will only get into the line up if two defensemen get hurt. Especially when the teams starting goaltender is injury prone and a pending UFA, the backup and 3rd string are garbage, and the prospect system as you say is terrible.


You literally said, "What some schmuck believes prospects are ranked vs what the pens feel about Blomqvist are two different things." in reply to my comment about Blomqvist not being ranked on any top NHL affiliated prospect lists.

The whole conversation started based off your post, "Yeah getting a top goalie prospect for a 6/7th dman and a 5th round pick would make sense for the Canucks. But makes less than zero sense for the pens.", that statement implies that the value is off, where in reality it's not. Blomqvist is also not a top NHL goalie prospect, he may be the PENS top goalie prospect but that in its self isnt saying much. The PENS may not make the trade if they want to keep Blomqvist but the value is definitely there.

As for the PENS not being interested in Schenn, maybe it's different in Pittsburg but in Vancouver there are insiders saying the PENS are one of the teams that have shown interest in Schenn, so I am going to assume there IS interest from either Hextall and or Burke.
Feb. 26, 2023 at 9:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Reason
You literally said, "What some schmuck believes prospects are ranked vs what the pens feel about Blomqvist are two different things." in reply to my comment about Blomqvist not being ranked on any top NHL affiliated prospect lists.

The whole conversation started based off your post, "Yeah getting a top goalie prospect for a 6/7th dman and a 5th round pick would make sense for the Canucks. But makes less than zero sense for the pens.", that statement implies that the value is off, where in reality it's not. Blomqvist is also not a top NHL goalie prospect, he may be the PENS top goalie prospect but that in its self isnt saying much. The PENS may not make the trade if they want to keep Blomqvist but the value is definitely there.

As for the PENS not being interested in Schenn, maybe it's different in Pittsburg but in Vancouver there are insiders saying the PENS are one of the teams that have shown interest in Schenn, so I am going to assume there IS interest from either Hextall and or Burke.


Right…what some schmuck thinks prospects are ranked vs what the pens think they are ranked are two different things. I’d think GMs and scouts have a better idea of prospects and how they’d fit in their organization than some schmuck giving his opinion on overall rankings. Not that they ever get them wrong or anything 🙄. That’s why Shane Wright was a can’t miss nhl ready consensus number 1 pick this past year as everyone ranked him to be.

No that literally doesn’t imply that at all. It implies that getting a teams top goalie prospect and a 5th round pick for a 6/7 dman makes total sense for the rebuilding team that’s out of the playoffs and looking towards the future. But it doesn’t make sense for the contender with 4-5 RHD that are already equal, if not better, than Schenn to pay their top goaltending prospect and a 5th for someone to be anywhere from their 4th-6th RHD. That’s poor asset management. And it’s accurate considering the pens wouldn’t add Blomqvist in the Rakell deal so Anaheim settled for Clang instead. They sure as heck won’t put him in a deal for a guy that likely doesn’t play unless multiple injuries on the defense.

You mean the same insiders claiming that the pens were gonna pull the trigger on Marino and a 1st for Boeser last year? Then Marino and a 1st for Garland. Then Marino and a 1st for Miller. And so on and so on. Yeah they are surely believable lol. No reputable Pittsburgh insider has mentioned Schenn as a possibility, much less on the pens radar that I’ve seen.
 
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