leafs move out a player for garland maybe

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Created by: The_Ginger_Leaf

Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 27, 2023

Published: Feb. 27, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Kerfoot been very solidly defensivly and has been looking very good on the fourth line. Engvall hasn’t been that great with Kampf all this year
Engvall still doesn’t hit, he makes a lot of bad plays and isn’t consistently good as a third liner. He’s more of a fourth liner. The skills he has is good but he’s super inconsistent and can’t use them properly. I don't know why everyone hates on kerfoot. Kerfoot has new linemates and he's playing very good.

so that brings to my question.
Would you rather have crappy 3rd line engvall or really good expensive 4th line kerfoot

What would garland cost without trading kerfoot? rumours say garland was going to be boughtout. sooo if Vancouver is willing to dump him and leafs are willing to dump him, maybe both teams can come to an agreement???

I'm aware the trade is bad

Trades

TOR

Garland, Conor ($2,000,000 retained)

VAN

Abruzzese, Nick
Engvall, Pierre
Holl, Justin
2024 5th round pick (CHI)
2025 5th round pick (CHI)

TOR

add in a third to the trade

VAN

2023 3rd round pick (TOR)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$82,271,246	$212,500	$0	$228,754

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 3
Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 2
Garland, Conor $2,950,000$2,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 4	O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000$1,875,000 C UFA - 1	Lafferty, Sam $1,150,000$1,150,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 2
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 1
		Acciari, Noel $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 2	Samsonov, Ilya $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 2	McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Timmins, Conor $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 2
Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630$840,630 LW, RW UFA - 1		Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 2
		Mete, Victor $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.

mv21227

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Canucks aren’t retaining 2M and giving away Garland for a pile of scraps

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.

The_Ginger_Leaf

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ginger

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Quoting: mv21227

Canucks aren’t retaining 2M and giving away Garland for a pile of scraps

rumors would say otherwise

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.

Juice

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If the leafs acquire Conor Garland he will become the new "Kerfoot and Holl" as the player deemed expendable in every trade offer on here moving forward.

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.

Epic_Ninja_Dude

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Canucks decline. I think the most likely scenario is that the Canucks keep Garland. He's played much better under Tocchet (10 points in 13 games) and looks like he will continue to play well under a coach he also played well under in Arizona. Canucks certainly won't retain and move him for a bunch of scraps.

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.

TheAlien

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If Nino is worth a 2nd, so is Garland

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.

BradTreliving

leafsfan67

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I think the package is too little

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.

The_Ginger_Leaf

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ginger

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Quoting: leafsfan_67

I think the package is too little

I did say the trade wasn’t good

Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.

The_Ginger_Leaf

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ginger

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Quoting: TheAlien

If Nino is worth a 2nd, so is Garland

Yeah , he’s not

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Feb. 27, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.

CaptainTavares

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Quoting: TheAlien

If Nino is worth a 2nd, so is Garland

He most certainly is not with that contract...

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Feb. 27, 2023 at 7:10 p.m.

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TheAlien

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Quoting: CaptainTavares

He most certainly is not with that contract...

Quoting: The_Ginger_Leaf

Yeah , he’s not

Nino makes 4mil while being 4 years older. Garland makes 4.95 with better point totals than Nino in every season since he became a full time NHLer. But sure the Canucks are gonna retain 2mil and trade him for nothing.

Feb. 27, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.

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CaptainTavares

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Quoting: TheAlien

The remaining term is the issue, if they retain salary on the deal for this season and 3 seasons after this one they would be able to gain an asset back sure, but retaining for three seasons is a lot. But trading Garland with that current contract would not get you anything in return, you would have to pay to get rid of it.

Nino only had one year left after this season, but preds only got a 2nd since jets took the full contract. Nino also has a longer track record of success and size still matters for playoff hockey, teams will pay for size with skill to go with it.

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