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Created by: TDruga1400

Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 1, 2023

Published: Mar. 1, 2023

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I know we do not want to get rid of Pettersson but in order to make any trade for Miller work financially, its him or Petry and Petry has a NMC. It wont be as bad as you guys think, POJ on the come up and then Chychrun basically replaces him anyways. Also the Arizona trade could see another prospect going to Ari. Enough with thinking a 1st and 2nd will do!

Just learned retainage carries over, Miller trade would be much different and less retained

Trades

PIT

Chychrun, Jakob

ARI

Poulin, Samuel
2023 1st round pick (PIT)
2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
2025 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)

VAN

Hållander, Filip
Pettersson, Marcus
2024 4th round pick (PIT)

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $1,916,667

Buried

Brock McGinn: $1,625,000 ($2,750,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$76,635,417	$0	$0	$5,864,583

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Miller, J.T. $2,625,000$2,625,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1
	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6
Heinen, Danton $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy $2,200,000$2,200,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Archibald, Josh $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Poehling, Ryan $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1
O'Connor, Drew $750,000$750,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Jarry, Tristan $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	DeSmith, Casey $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 2	Rutta, Jan $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
	Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 2

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.

Mr_Gardoki

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I think AZ is going to want Pickering or Smith. Poulin is a so-so prospect at this point.

For VAN, if they're willing to eat some salary for Miller, my guess it's closer to $1.5-$2M and would need a 1st.

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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.

Pensman69

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We would have to add on to both of those trades, slight underpays on both

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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.

Hammerwise

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While that offer to VAN might seem in the ballpark, although Hallander and the 4th are both really weak, no way does VAN retain as Miller is already resigned long term.

VAN would probably need multiple 1sts to retain for that long

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.

TDruga1400

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Quoting: Pensman69

We would have to add on to both of those trades, slight underpays on both

I wasnt sure on Petterssons value, and Canucks fans say anything to get rid of millers contract will do. I agree adding onto Arizona tho

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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:25 p.m.

TDruga1400

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Quoting: Hammerwise

Retainage would just be this years contract not on extension

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.

Pensman69

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Quoting: TDruga1400

I wasnt sure on Petterssons value, and Canucks fans say anything to get rid of millers contract will do. I agree adding onto Arizona tho

I’d think that if we get that much retained back on Miller, we would have to start the base of a trade with at least a first + Petts or Joseph and then from there who knows

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.

TDruga1400

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Edited Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.

Quoting: Pensman69

I’d think that if we get that much retained back on Miller, we would have to start the base of a trade with at least a first + Petts or Joseph and then from there who knows

Well the retainage is only on the 1 year left, not extension (nvm im dumb)

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.

Juiceman

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Quoting: Pensman69

We would have to add on to both of those trades, slight underpays on both

"Slight".

The Canucks will not be retaining 50% of Miller's contract for the next 8 years

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.

Juiceman

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Quoting: TDruga1400

Well the retainage is only on the 1 year left, not extension

Wrong. The % retention carries over to the next contract

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.

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Juiceman

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Regarding what happens when a player is traded with retained salary and they have a contract extension that hasn't begun yet:The league settled this issue with clubs back in 2013: the retained salary percentage always applies across the current active contract AND the extension
— CapFriendly (@CapFriendly) February 28, 2023

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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.

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TDruga1400

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Quoting: Juiceman

Wrong. The % retention carries over to the next contract

Oh i thought i read something that said it wouldnt, that changes alot

Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

A 1st, 2nd and Pickering might end up getting it done for AZ. Teams are bailing because of their high ask so taking what is two firsts and a 2nd without retention or cap coming back should fly.

Mar. 1, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.

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DonkeyLips

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Be realistic?! Why did you post this then? It is not realistic.

Mar. 1, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.

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Pensfan303

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Or instead or Petterson, you can move Rutta and Teddy

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