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Created by: Stevierebz
Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 19, 2023
Published: Apr. 19, 2023
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What would the likes of Anderson and Lindholm cost realistically?
I think Hronek is a good comp for Anderson, let me know if I’m mistaken. (Mid round 1st and second for Hronek and a 4th)
Horvat is prob a good one for Lindholm. (Horvat 25% retained for top12 protected 1st, b level prospect, middle 6 roster player.

I made them two separate trades to better show the value but basically: 1st and Al for Andersson (IMO Johansson is better than a 2nd but if you’d rather a 2nd, I’d gladly oblige. Andersson has an extra year on his contract vs Hronek so that’s where the additional value plays in). A 1st, Zadina (comparable to Raty), and Fabbri (comp to Beauvillier but oft inj) for Lindholm. I’d be fine with Boston 1st instead of Det or Veleno, Elmer, or another prospect to replace one of the players.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,000,000
2$1,300,000
4$6,000,000
1$4,000,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
CGY
  1. Johansson, Albert
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2.
DET
  1. Lindholm, Elias
CGY
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. Zadina, Filip
  3. 2024 1st round pick (DET)
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Top 12 protected
3.
DET
  1. Grans, Helge
LAK
  1. Sebrango, Donovan
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$84,000,000$73,375,555$0$5,315,000$10,624,445
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Larkin, Dylan
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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Raymond, Lucas
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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Rasmussen, Michael
$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Perron, David
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptBerggren, Jonatan
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptKasper, Marco
$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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Copp, Andrew
$5,625,000$5,625,000
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Suter, Pius
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Veleno, Joseph
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C
RFA - 1
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Kubalik, Dominik
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptSöderblom, Elmer
$878,333$878,333 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptMazur, Carter
$905,833$905,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Walman, Jake
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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Seider, Moritz
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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Husso, Ville
$4,750,000$4,750,000
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UFA - 2
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Määttä, Olli
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Andersen, Frederik
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptEdvinsson, Simon
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 3
Schenn, Luke
$1,300,000$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Chiarot, Ben
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3

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Apr. 20, 2023 at 12:13 a.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Blah blah blah read the other posts.


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> Matched Raymond's point pace
> 3rd in league for PIMs [mostly gritty penalties]
> First season as a center
> Don't know how he ended but half way he was top 10 in the SHL in GAR or WAR
As an 18 y/o.

His game isn't scoring. His game is being a hornet; he's everywhere on the ice and hitting anything that moves.


Do you have an link showing this type of information or do I just have to take your word.

Either way if you are suggesting he will become a Danault/JEE type player you still very much undervalue Rasmus Andersson at the least.
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 8:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Do you have an link showing this type of information or do I just have to take your word.

Either way if you are suggesting he will become a Danault/JEE type player you still very much undervalue Rasmus Andersson at the least.


https://www.quanthockey.com/shl/en/seasons/shl-players-stats.html PIM

https://twitter.com/iyer_prashanth/status/1620456132056875008?t=EyA66amSqQsbUHyijayCKw&s=19 GAR

Other two are readily accessable but I'd rather not calculate them.

I suspect that he becomes much better than both of those folks.
Apr. 20, 2023 at 8:21 a.m.
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On the Lindholm trade, Fabbri has had 3 major knee operations, So he has no value and Zadina is heading for major bust territory. So the Flames pass big time. Johansson and a 1st isn't enough for Rasmus Andersson so the Flames pass a 2nd time as well.
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
https://www.quanthockey.com/shl/en/seasons/shl-players-stats.html PIM

https://twitter.com/iyer_prashanth/status/1620456132056875008?t=EyA66amSqQsbUHyijayCKw&s=19 GAR

Other two are readily accessable but I'd rather not calculate them.

I suspect that he becomes much better than both of those folks.


Thank you for the info but i doubt he becomes a better player than either. Sounds to me like he's projecting more towards curren Sam Bennett in style and skill
Apr. 20, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Thank you for the info but i doubt he becomes a better player than either. Sounds to me like he's projecting more towards curren Sam Bennett in style and skill


Skillwise? Maybe. But different eyes have different perspectives. I, and most Red Wings fans that watch him, believe he's exactly what this team needed and a phenomenal 2C [but if we luck out and land one of the top 3C in this draft he also plays wing]
Apr. 20, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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Skillwise? Maybe. But different eyes have different perspectives. I, and most Red Wings fans that watch him, believe he's exactly what this team needed and a phenomenal 2C [but if we luck out and land one of the top 3C in this draft he also plays wing]


A 2C is not going to be better than Lindholm who is a top 15 center in the league. Hypothetically speaking lets say he someday develops into that player, we are still likely talking roughly 4-5 years from now
Apr. 20, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
A 2C is not going to be better than Lindholm who is a top 15 center in the league. Hypothetically speaking lets say he someday develops into that player, we are still likely talking roughly 4-5 years from now


Lindholm's skillset, although nice, does not match Kasper's benefits to the team. This team is weak and we got pushed around physically. Kasper'll definitely fix this.
Apr. 20, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Stevierebz
Not even close? I was looking for input here?


if any guy were to go, an overpay is needed
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 2:58 p.m.
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Lindholm's skillset, although nice, does not match Kasper's benefits to the team. This team is weak and we got pushed around physically. Kasper'll definitely fix this.


Sure. If you feel the needs are more important then thats fine. Its similar to how there's almost nothing anyone could offer that wpuld make me consider moving Wolf
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Sure. If you feel the needs are more important then thats fine. Its similar to how there's almost nothing anyone could offer that wpuld make me consider moving Wolf


Mhm. You can build a team with a lot of stars, but if they crumble in a physical game they're going no where.
 
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