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Created by: nepTrystan

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 28, 2023

Published: Apr. 29, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I dont see and wants the habs going at PLD right now, but i know jets fans you will not like the deal, im not basing on the playoffs just its not a good idea to give any of ours 1rst for him when we could get him for free

I could see the Habs mooving Eddmunson, Armia and Hoffman to create cap space and adding young players to the core

But except a huge overpay they will not trade Anderson

With the 1rst round picks :

- 5th Will Smith
- 14th Axel Sandin-Pellika ( Or Reinbacher if he's still there)
- 17th Nate Danielson (Or Gabe Perrault if he's still there)

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Caufield, Cole	7	$8,000,000
Beaudin, Nicolas	1	$775,000
Condotta, Lucas	2	$800,000
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	2	$1,500,000
Pezzetta, Michael	3	$1,250,000
Ylönen, Jesse	2	$1,250,000
Dubois, Pierre-Luc	6	$7,800,000
Addison, Calen	2	$1,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Belzile, Alex		2	$850,000
Monahan, Sean		1	$2,000,000

Trades

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
2023 5th round pick (NYR)

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I dont want Dubois, but if they make that deal i won't be mad that much, he's not a fit rn, especially if we somehow win Bedard or Fantilli

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
Kidney, Riley
2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
2024 2nd round pick (COL)

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I know it sucks compare to what he can brings but the Jets have no levrage at all, and getting a good 2nd (like a 2022 late first) annother second, a roster player (Dvo) and a good prospect in Kidney is not ideal, but you're not getting either of 2023 firsts

MTL

2024 7th round pick (DET)

DET

Wideman, Chris

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Anywhere

MTL

Addison, Calen [RFA Rights]
2023 7th round pick (MIN)
2024 5th round pick (BUF)

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Getting something for a player who's not a future member of the team

Also giving a chance at Addison see what he can do

MIN

Hoffman, Mike ($2,225,000 retained)

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Idk if it's a good fit in minnesota, but i could see a team buying him retained for cheap draft picks and a player who's the odd man on his team

MTL

Only real cap dump because of jam in depth and he's too expensive for what he brings

ARI

Armia, Joel
2023 4th round pick (VGK)
2023 7th round pick (MIN)

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free drafts picks lmao

MTL

Granlund, Mikael
2023 1st round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Getting a 1rst with a cap dump for a dman who's probably not on the plans and a prospect who will probably not having a chance in the habs is really good

PIT

Edmundson, Joel ($1,500,000 retained)
Norlinder, Mattias

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Pens get an Experimented D-man for 2M instead of 3.5M and they get an project in Norlinder who's stuck in mtl but may be usefull in a short term for Pittsburg

But for that Dumping of Granlund's contract you need to trade at least a 1rst, probably habs will want a bit more but just a 1rst is good enough

MTL

Hart, Carter

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Idk what you think Flyers fans about that

PHI

Allen, Jake
2023 4th round pick (PIT)
2024 1st round pick (MTL)
2024 7th round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

1rst top 5 Protected

I don't think a market for a Goaltender should be high, but the habs need a replacement for Price and Hart could very be the guy, it's expensive but at least it's not a 2023 pick

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Mike Hoffman: $2,225,000 (49.44%)
Joel Edmundson: $1,500,000 (171.43%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$79,153,166	$1,170,000	$4,195,000	$3,346,834

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $8,000,000$8,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $7,800,000$7,800,000 C UFA - 8	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
Monahan, Sean $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Granlund, Mikael $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Ylönen, Jesse $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Addison, Calen $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD RFA - 1	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 1
Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Apr. 29, 2023 at 12:35 a.m.

DollaBillaz

Joined: May 2021

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minnesota doesn't consider that

Apr. 29, 2023 at 12:39 a.m.

nepTrystan

Thread Starter

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Quoting: DollaDollaBillKirill

minnesota doesn't consider that

I'm not sure of the value of Addison, is it the issue? I honestly thinks the wild will need a bit of offensive help at low cost and Hoff can bring that up

Apr. 29, 2023 at 12:40 a.m.

DollaBillaz

Joined: May 2021

Posts: 386

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Quoting: nepTrystan

I'm not sure of the value of Addison, is it the issue? I honestly thinks the wild will need a bit of offensive help at low cost and Hoff can bring that up

yeah I think his value would be around a second and a third. no interest in hoffman. we have our own players we need to sign with barely any cap space.

Apr. 29, 2023 at 4:55 a.m.

GiggywithGibby

Future Ducks legend

Joined: Jun. 2022

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Granlund has a very manageable buyout that Pitt would take before moving their 1st this year to dump him, so you can probably forget about your dreams of Pellika/Reinbacher, and I would not count on that Florida pick being so high before the end of their playoff run. They were expected to get swept by Boston and they have dragged it to game 7.

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Apr. 29, 2023 at 6:16 a.m.

jonh514

HuGo is a Boss GM

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The premise that "we should not trade a 1st for him because we can get him for free in 1 year" is false IMO.

He is getting traded this offseason and he will sign with the team he is traded to

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Apr. 29, 2023 at 8:24 a.m.

SydBarrett

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Penguins pass pretty easy here. The buyout is very cheap and the penguins have no need for more below average & injury prone defenseman. We already have enough of those lol

Apr. 29, 2023 at 8:46 a.m.

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Quoting: jonh514

The premise that "we should not trade a 1st for him because we can get him for free in 1 year" is false IMO.

He is getting traded this offseason and he will sign with the team he is traded to

Not exactly how I'd look at it.
If you aren't willing to give up a 1st round pick (Fla, Cgy, or Mtl 2024 protected), then don't bother making an offer. That means you don't want him enough to pay a reasonable price.
If that's the case, you also aren't going to want to sign him to the contract he will expect as a UFA in a year.

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Apr. 29, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.

aedoran

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Quoting: jonh514

The premise that "we should not trade a 1st for him because we can get him for free in 1 year" is false IMO.

He is getting traded this offseason and he will sign with the team he is traded to

What if he was traded as a pure rental as a TDL move to a team that has no intension of resigning him?

Apr. 29, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.

jonh514

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Quoting: aedoran

What if he was traded as a pure rental as a TDL move to a team that has no intension of resigning him?

I doubt very much that he signs for 1 year again... But maybe

Apr. 29, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.

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danielcoe

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Quoting: ricochetii

that is my hunch too.. dubois will want 9 mil and i think given his history that is too much.. He wont be better than suzuki so why give him so much more money... plus all the pressure that a contract like that would cause a quebec player... Honestly I think his agent is trying to shake up interest in order to drive the price up.. If we win the lottery then we dont need dubois for sure.

Apr. 29, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.

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MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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That's a garbage offer for Carter Hart, Detroit is linked to him as well. And they'd easily offer Philly better than this.

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