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Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 7: On the Ropes)

May 12, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Nathaniel
2C Pontus Holmberg soon


I don't hate that idea, it would be nice to promote from within but it is also hard to get a read on what Holmberg's offensive ceiling. I would love to see if Mason McTavish is avaivlbe once ANA selects Fantilli. If ARI selects a C at the draft could Hayton be available. If PHI goes full tear down could Frost be available. Also McMichael in WSH or Sillinger in CLB. I want to get someone young
May 12, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
I don't hate that idea, it would be nice to promote from within but it is also hard to get a read on what Holmberg's offensive ceiling. I would love to see if Mason McTavish is avaivlbe once ANA selects Fantilli. If ARI selects a C at the draft could Hayton be available. If PHI goes full tear down could Frost be available. Also McMichael in WSH or Sillinger in CLB. I want to get someone young


I feel like Frost could be available, but I'm not sure I love the idea of him at 2C
May 12, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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I would whole heartedly put Pontus Holmberg in the Top 6 atleast once next season. He did so many little things right in his time on the 4th line


I think you got the quote wrong there bud tears of joy
May 12, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
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I feel like Frost could be available, but I'm not sure I love the idea of him at 2C


some pretty strong numbers on a terrible PHI team

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May 12, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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I think you got the quote wrong there bud tears of joy


Yeah not sure what happened there. Multi Quote just kinda broke haha
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May 12, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.
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WOLL OH MY GOD
May 12, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.
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Horrible PK shift from the Leafs. Just completely left Woll out to dry. The start to this game has been absolutely horrible, I'm starting to think the boys just want to hit the links at this point
May 12, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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Edited May 12, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
Goal 1 Woll gets a piece but man not a great look

Goal 2 Liligren slowing the puck enough for FLA to get it

Big OOOFFF.
May 12, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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Great defending guys
May 12, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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And with that play Liligren's fate was sealed RIP
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May 12, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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And with that play Liligren's fate was sealed RIP


Yeah I can see a scenario where we trade him this summer.
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May 12, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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I love Brodie but man his pass first no shoot mentality is an offense killer. I would rather have him on the right of someone like Rielly rather than being the LD with someone like Holl
May 12, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.
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Yeah I can see a scenario where we trade him this summer.


Yea and it sucks as man before TDL he looked good. But then since after the TDL hes been bad and its plays like we saw from him that makes me go why u in over Timmins or Gustafsson. As that bad play with the puck then poor defensive coverage after just does not look good.
May 12, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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Yeah I can see a scenario where we trade him this summer.


Trade up with Buffalo 👀
May 12, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Yea and it sucks as man before TDL he looked good. But then since after the TDL hes been bad and its plays like we saw from him that makes me go why u in over Timmins or Gustafsson. As that bad play with the puck then poor defensive coverage after just does not look good.


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Trade up with Buffalo 👀


No not a trade up. More like finding someone Keefe will trust in big mins now. If things get moved it isnt a rebuild. We aren't looking for futures
May 12, 2023 at 8:03 p.m.
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So happy we didn’t add another scorer at the deadline
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May 12, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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No not a trade up. More like finding someone Keefe will trust in big mins now. If things get moved it isnt a rebuild. We aren't looking for futures


Use him to go get Connor Hellybuyck
May 12, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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So happy we didn’t add another scorer at the deadline


Wouldnt have helped as this team lives and dies by the big 4. Till game 4 goals came from our depth

ROR, Lafferty, Kerfoot, Bunting, Knies, Gustafsson even if they added another scorer nothing changes unless the 4 get going. Game 4 I saw it but tonight guess it was a one off
May 12, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Wouldnt have helped as this team lives and dies by the big 4. Till game 4 goals came from our depth

ROR, Lafferty, Kerfoot, Bunting, Knies, Gustafsson even if they added another scorer nothing changes unless the 4 get going. Game 4 I saw it but tonight guess it was a one off


So maybe help them out
May 12, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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So maybe help them out


They have gotten enough help. Time for them to own up as depth is scoring time for them to do the same

Even if they brought in Bertuzzi if big 4 aint scoring what then
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May 12, 2023 at 8:13 p.m.
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Wouldnt have helped as this team lives and dies by the big 4. Till game 4 goals came from our depth

ROR, Lafferty, Kerfoot, Bunting, Knies, Gustafsson even if they added another scorer nothing changes unless the 4 get going. Game 4 I saw it but tonight guess it was a one off


Not really. You add ONE scoring, playdriving winger and you get this:

Player X - Matthews - Jarnkrok
Knies - Tavares - Marner
Bunting - OReilly - Nylander
Kerfoot - Kampf - Acciari

Much better. That is a balanced attack and a half. But no, who needs more scoring when we can rely on the same 4 guys all the time, right?
May 12, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Not really. You add ONE scoring, playdriving winger and you get this:

Player X - Matthews - Jarnkrok
Knies - Tavares - Marner
Bunting - OReilly - Nylander
Kerfoot - Kampf - Acciari

Much better. That is a balanced attack and a half. But no, who needs more scoring when we can rely on the same 4 guys all the time, right?


And what happens if big 4 aint scoring then what. Sure u can add guys like Bertuzzi but if big 4 aint scoring it goes no where. As look whats happening this series till game 4 our depth have been scoring and our big 4 have not been doing anything and they lost. But when big 4 were scoring guess what they won
May 12, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Dubas watching Liljegren tonight
May 12, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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And what happens if big 4 aint scoring then what. Sure u can add guys like Bertuzzi but if big 4 aint scoring it goes no where. As look whats happening this series till game 4 our depth have been scoring and our big 4 have not been doing anything and they lost. But when big 4 were scoring guess what they won


The support is scoring? Thus the need for additional scoring? What point are you trying to make here?
May 12, 2023 at 8:21 p.m.
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The support is scoring? Thus the need for additional scoring? What point are you trying to make here?


The point is even if u added another scorer it wouldnt have mattered as in this series big 4 have been bad. If they were playing good games 1-3 (game 4 they were good) and they were losing u could go yea should have added but they havent been. Took them till game 4 to get going and so far looking like a one off. Were getting the depth goals but not goals from the big boyz and that is whats killing us.
 
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