Poor Bedard, having Hoffman on his line and having to carry him lmao
fr tho Hoffman is prob better bought out than paying a 4th to get rid of him, so is Armia

Although Chicago wants to be near the bottom of the league again they'll probably want to at least get a few more quality forwards just so that Bedard has someone to play with. Other than that looks good

Possibly.

I think Hiffman still has some value. If playing with Bedard can get hom back to a decent pace, then it could be worth the investment.

And still, if Montréal wants to rid themselves of the contract badly enough, maybe future considerations gets it done.

Just looking at a plan to pay as little as possible.to get to the cap floor.

I agree.... but I think right now that Reichel and Raddysh are those guys. Just not sure teams are willing give up prime younguns to the Hawks, and moreover, (at least with this ACGM) they have 2 1sts and 6 2nds to start filling out the organization.

A situation where it is what it is right now.

I was with you after reading your description but the UFA signings and trades are just BAD. Hawks won't have any interest in Oesterle or Ritchie. They'll target 2 or 3 skilled UFA forwards like Domi, Bunting, Killorn, Barbashev, Tatar, etc to play w/ Bedard.

One 2nd isn't enough for Hawks to take Peterson. Takes another 2nd or 3rd or a prospect the Hawks actually want. You have the Hawks trading DOWN in the 2nd round for Bailey. Take out the Chicago 2nd going back to the Isles in that deal. That's how a cap dump works. No chance Hawks pay a 4th to acquire Hoffman. Hawks don't want him at all. Putting him on a line w/ Bedard is also pretty funny. He hasn't been that type of player in 3 or 4 years.

I think it's more Habs fans that want to move Hoffman more than management.

1. Crap! I never intended to move the Hawks 2nd in the Bailey deal. Didn't catch that. The deal is Bailey and the Isles 2nd for futures.... or it was supposed to be lol.

2. I get the want to get skilled forwards for Bedard, but I think this artificially males the Hawks better. I am thinking more long term. Hawks won't be relevant for another 3 years, and signing UFA ld makes little sense at this juncture. See what Reichel is. See if Raddysh is that player. See hiw Nazar looks in year 2 of NCAA play. This is a time to truly gauge the young players, and having them play behind UFAs I beleive is counter productive at this time.

3. Peterson..... you maybe right. I debated going for a 2024 1st here (as I said). I see that deal having many parts. Kings will want to move him. Hawks need to make basement. Hawks will still need a goalie for 2024-25. Peterson wasn't horrible in the AHL last year - or at least Mzarek like. Snagging another pick or prospect would be ideal. But given the moving parts, chose to aim a little lower as to not make it look like something that would never get done.

4. Oesterle and Ritchie are just cheap fillers. Surr, the Hawks have the cap space to do much bigger things. But, Davidson burned this to the ground. Again, investing at this stage I am not sure does the Hawks any service long term right now. 2 years from now, yes..... go for it. I just don't see now as the time.

Maybe right.

Habs have a lot of young forwards that can certainly play. All depends on Hughes' thought processes.

The word is, Hoffman is a contract they would like.to move. I just don't think they do that for free.

1. Yep. Bailey and a 2nd for F/C is the deal

2. One good line w/ Bedard might make Hawks marginally better, but that's ok. They're still a bottom 5 team in the league. Rest of the forward group, the D and the goalies about the same as last year. The UFA's the Hawks sign to play w/ Bedard get 2 or 3 year deals at way over market salary. Just a different way to weaponize cap space. Hawks pay a guy like Bunting the same total dollars he'd get for a 5 year deal in a 3 year deal. So the UFA's are gone when the young guys are NHL ready in 3 years as you pointed out.

3. Kings won't spend a 1st to move Peterson. And I doubt Hawks take on 2 years at $5m per year for only one 2nd. So find the middle ground. Hawks have Drew Commesso, former 2nd round pick, in the AHL for 24/25 if neccessary. And you didn't account for Arvid Soderblom, who signed a 2 year extension yesterday, and is pretty much NHL ready as well.

Check this ACGM out. This shows pretty much exactly what I'm trying to explain:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4175086

MTL accepts, imo I don't think we can expect more unless we 50% him and get a 3rd possibly. I'll gladly take a 4th though.

MTL wouldn't mind shipping Hoffman somewhere else, but they're not paying to do so. Habs would just buy him out, for a $1.16m cap penalty for two years...we have plenty of capspace.

We're not paying to move him in this scenario.

Oh damn, you're right. God, I'm too tired to be on these forums !

Well, seems similar to what I did.

Kupari would be a good add..... no dispute.

Not sure Pittsburgh moves picks with Granlund.... he isn't that bad, nor is his contract.

And Domi going back could happen.

I guess the real question here is how competitive do you want the Hawks being?

I see this team still bottoming out. Adding Granlend and Domi there is an air of competition there.

I would reserve those moves for at least a year when Johnson, Dickinson etc come off the books.

My opinion.