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Created by: Howie
Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: May 18, 2023
Published: May 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
1$3,360,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
  2. Östlund, Noah
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
Jets get pick 13 in this years draft
Upl is 24 year old goalie who could use a change and maybe fines a way to be a 1a/1b goalie
Ostlund gives the jets a prospect overseas to build the team with
BUF
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor
  2. Stanley, Logan [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Buffalo gets Hellebuyck who is a venza winner, 3 times nominated in 6 years and would give Buffalo the best shot at ending the drought they have as throwing Levi to be a 1a with thr experience he has and hope to make playoffs is optimistic. Get stanley for bottom pair lhd and with his age and size could be a nice addition
2.
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Jets get Calgary's 2025 first (can choose 2024 first if in 20-32 range). Colorado's 2024 second, Kidney who has great offensive numbers in the q with b2b 100 point seasons and a cap player coming back in Dvorak or hoffman
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Mtl gets their guy and keeps the 2023 picks and their own future 1sts in the process. Sign him to the 7 year 8m deal and start to turn the corner on being a competitive team. Jets also throw in vesalainen as a flyer type pick up where in 3 years if he's wanting to return to NA then they can sign him as a depth piece after some strong seasons over seas. If not it doesn't take up a roster spot until he's signed and has no risk besides if he stays over seas.
3.
WPG
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Jets get a 2024 first go help get more young assets on the team. Lapierre is a good prospect where he is good at a lot of things but master of none.
WSH
  1. Harkins, Jansen
  2. Scheifele, Mark ($3,062,500 retained)
Additional Details:
Caps get scheifele 50% retained around the deadline where he can be a good top 6 piece to compete again next year. Harkins provides young bottom 6/depth support for the team.
4.
WPG
  1. Zadina, Filip
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
Jets get a 2023 2nd to bring in a rhd prospect and zadina who could use a change of scenery.
DET
  1. Johannesson, Anton [Reserve List]
  2. Pionk, Neal
Additional Details:
Detroit gets a perfect 2nd pair rhd that can do it all (pp, pk, hit, block, provide offense support. Get johannesson as a toss in prospect that's currently in the 3rd tier Swedish league but could be in a different higher league next year. Had injury issues and might be able to sign him to play in ahl at some point.
5.
WPG
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Definitely the most questionable deal so I'll accept the push back on the deal.

Jets get Garland who is a solid middle six player just isn't worth almost 5m. Could be a nice addition to have a player give it all season. Myers replaces demelo on the right side and basically plays the same role that demelo does. Get a top 10 protected 1st in 2024. This could also be a lower pick with a b prospect.
VAN
  1. DeMelo, Dylan
  2. Heinola, Ville
Additional Details:
Vancouver gets the exactly the player they need in demelo who is a solid defensive dman that is rhd and a lower cap hit. Can be a great pair with hughes and how Morrissey was able to boom with the solid partner demelo is maybe hughes takes another step and becomes a norris finalist. Heinola is here as Vancouver seems to want to bring in younger nhl ready or on the crusp to help build a core. He has been shut out of the jets lineup and really could use a change where a team values what he can bring.
6.
WPG
  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Jets sign Blackwood he probably doesn't get qualified but since his qo is so high nj can't expect anything for a return as he ain't worth 3.3m and not a lot of teams would be paying late picks for a injury prone goalie like him
NJD
  1. Blaisdell, Harrison [Reserve List]
Additional Details:
Nj can take Blaisdell and hope he turns into something but honestly just gives them something for him even if it will likely never have an impact on the franchise
Retained Salary Transactions
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$71,126,191$0$1,150,000$11,373,809
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
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UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
RFA - 2
$3,360,000$3,360,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1

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May 20, 2023 at 12:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Kuzbackov
Scheifele will not return any Top 10 Pick from any team.


When did I say it's a top 10 pick look up to when I said a pick in the 20s lol when I first quoted your response. Capitals also aren't getting a top 10 pick next year lol
May 20, 2023 at 12:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Howie
When did I say it's a top 10 pick look up to when I said a pick in the 20s lol when I first quoted your response. Capitals also aren't getting a top 10 pick next year lol


The Capitals have a Top 10 Pick This Year. What do you expect to change so drastically next year? You don’t seem to understand anything about the Capitals. Understanding the team you’re proposing a trade to is a pretty big part of proposing trades in AGMs.
May 20, 2023 at 12:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Kuzbackov
The Capitals have a Top 10 Pick This Year. What do you expect to change so drastically next year?


Actually change up the team and try to make the best use of ovi's tenure. Look at when the caps got Forsberg that was a time they missed and then they made a bad trade but the point still remains they should be a better team and ultimately they should ve better how much better I think around where Florida/tampa finished
May 20, 2023 at 12:35 a.m.
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Actually change up the team and try to make the best use of ovi's tenure. Look at when the caps got Forsberg that was a time they missed and then they made a bad trade but the point still remains they should be a better team and ultimately they should ve better how much better I think around where Florida/tampa finished


You just made the best possible case against the trade you’re proposing. The Capitals should not trade premium futures (like any 1sts) for aging veterans. The last time they did that is all the proof you need. Ovi will be fine with the team as-is. The team needs to at least consider what happens after Ovi, Backstrom, Carlson, and Kuznetsov. They should absolutely not make trades that make the team older.
May 20, 2023 at 12:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Kuzbackov
You just made the best possible case against the trade you’re proposing. The Capitals should not trade premium futures (like any 1sts) for aging veterans. The last time they did that is all the proof you need. Ovi will be fine with the team as-is. The team needs to at least consider what happens after Ovi, Backstrom, Carlson, and Kuznetsov. They should absolutely not make trades that make the team older.


Yeah but no way they fully tear it down with ovi there, signed Kuemper, strome signed, Carlson still playing great. They either go and trade everyone or are a mid team that doesn't suck enough for a top pick but not good enough for the playoffs and when they need to rebuild its the same amount of time if they spent a couple assets trying to get that 7/8 seed in the east.
May 20, 2023 at 12:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Howie
It's fair value wise maybe not the right team but if scheifele was to be traded this type of return on another team would be the base. Don't get butt hurt I picked the wrong team sorry I couldn't be perfect for you


Caps aren’t the team for this deal but this value is accurate imo. 50% retained Scheifele is worth a 1st.
May 20, 2023 at 1:02 a.m.
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Caps aren’t the team for this deal but this value is accurate imo. 50% retained Scheifele is worth a 1st.


Thank you I knew I was making a statement with the caps so I think I may have just chosen the wrong team. Can't go wrong with him to Colorado.
May 20, 2023 at 1:33 a.m.
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Canucks are not trading a good middle 6 forward and a first round pick for a 30 year old bottom 4 defenseman....


Nothing about a small 5M winger is good and for 3 years term lmao you have no clue what a cap is, i cant believe you users are on this site. Its capfriendly not hfboards.. You understand there is a thing as a bad contract and its a negative asset. You dont pick up players like pokemon cards. You need to fit salary in this thing called a cap or you cant ice a team. Keeping Garland means no extension for your good players that will be paid during that same 3 year term. But why let practical thought clearly dissuade your fairy tale. Bjorkstrand can be given away, a strong 2 way play driver winger but nope not little midget Garland that is famous for having Mackinnon throw a helmet at him. Delusional
May 20, 2023 at 3:09 a.m.
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Replace Stanley with DeMelo
May 20, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Howie
Yeah but no way they fully tear it down with ovi there, signed Kuemper, strome signed, Carlson still playing great. They either go and trade everyone or are a mid team that doesn't suck enough for a top pick but not good enough for the playoffs and when they need to rebuild its the same amount of time if they spent a couple assets trying to get that 7/8 seed in the east.


What helps a rebuild more: a Top Prospect and 1st Rd Pick OR a 30-year old already showing signs of declining?
May 20, 2023 at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: perrystreett
Caps aren’t the team for this deal but this value is accurate imo. 50% retained Scheifele is worth a 1st.


I don't think he gets a top prospect along with it though. If Orlov at 50% (plus Hathaway) is only worth a 1st that was gonna be 28th in the absolute best case scenario, a 3rd next year, and a 2nd two years later, then Scheifele at 50% isn't getting a prospect of HL's caliber along with a higher 1st. I think teams have really wised up about giving up major assets for rentals not being worth it.
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May 20, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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Ah, come on. It’s worth keeping him in there just to confuse everyone with all the variations of A. Johannsen’s we’ll have in the system.


I was like "I thought we had him already" tears of joy
May 20, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.
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I would be all for this deal for Detroit.
May 20, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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I was like "I thought we had him already" tears of joy

Lol ya this one spells his name a little different
May 20, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Howie
A 20th something first that's probably protected and is no guarantee to become scheifele for a guy that scored 40 goals and can be had at a 3m cap hit. It's a fair deal and others agree


Nobody wants Scheifle. You would be lucky to get a second
May 20, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Nobody wants Scheifle. You would be lucky to get a second


Lol someone is a scheifele hater
May 20, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
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Lol someone is a scheifele hater


Lol, someone think a locker room cancer is worth a first and a good prospect
May 20, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.
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Lol, someone think a locker room cancer is worth a first and a good prospect


As a rental I'd personally guarantee that a team gives up a 1st foe him how many rental options are previous 40 goal scorers. I'm not saying that he's worth the world here but look at the o'reilly deal. He could probably get around the same minus the 2nd round pick and maybe a worse prospect. You do realize that scheifele is a top 6 player that can be at a 3m cap hit which is quite manageable with the cap of many contenders. Someone (you) just hates him for the Evans hit and just won't let your bias get out of the way of effectively analyzing what he'd realistically get via past trades and comparables. He doesn't have to be a voice in the locker room like he is here and I'd say it's more reflects on wheeler as he was the actual captain and many still see him as one. You're just bias no way around it to not see how a team would rush to pay a 1st a 3rd and b- prospect.
May 20, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
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As a rental I'd personally guarantee that a team gives up a 1st foe him how many rental options are previous 40 goal scorers. I'm not saying that he's worth the world here but look at the o'reilly deal. He could probably get around the same minus the 2nd round pick and maybe a worse prospect. You do realize that scheifele is a top 6 player that can be at a 3m cap hit which is quite manageable with the cap of many contenders. Someone (you) just hates him for the Evans hit and just won't let your bias get out of the way of effectively analyzing what he'd realistically get via past trades and comparables. He doesn't have to be a voice in the locker room like he is here and I'd say it's more reflects on wheeler as he was the actual captain and many still see him as one. You're just bias no way around it to not see how a team would rush to pay a 1st a 3rd and b- prospect.


The Evans hit was clean. Scheifle at deadline could get a Tarasenko type of return, not more. A first, a fourth, roster player and a C prospect. Not a pick who is probably going to be around 15 and a good prospect
May 20, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
The Evans hit was clean. Scheifle at deadline could get a Tarasenko type of return, not more. A first, a fourth, roster player and a C prospect. Not a pick who is probably going to be around 15 and a good prospect


Yes that's what I'm saying bruh idk where Capitals go. Just imagine I did it to Colorado for 2024 first and olausson for scheifele not retained (with landy out for the year it's less needed) I keep saying the ror deal and look where the 1st is 26th overall. I think you paid way too much attention to the team rather than the concept. Sure I picked the wrong team that's on me but to say scheifele ain't worth a first is just preposterous
May 22, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Kalopsia
I don't think he gets a top prospect along with it though. If Orlov at 50% (plus Hathaway) is only worth a 1st that was gonna be 28th in the absolute best case scenario, a 3rd next year, and a 2nd two years later, then Scheifele at 50% isn't getting a prospect of HL's caliber along with a higher 1st. I think teams have really wised up about giving up major assets for rentals not being worth it.


I agree, I think its a 1st alone or with a little extra. Not a top prospect
 
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