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The R word

Created by: FighterFoos23
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2023
Published: May 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Rebuild

First one of these I've done in forever. Probs horrible.

Also I put Ersson in the minors so he can develop even more on a competitive team.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,200,000
3$1,300,000
3$950,000
2$2,750,000
2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$875,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2023 6th round pick (ANA)
2.
PHI
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. 2023 1st round pick (DAL)
3.
PHI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (BOS)
4.
PHI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
5.
PHI
  1. Blankenburg, Nick
  2. 2025 1st round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($3,100,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$67,102,500$1,187,500$37,500$16,397,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000 (Performance Bonus$37,500$38K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C
RFA - 2
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
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$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$825,000$825,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$875,000$875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4

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May 22, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.
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Would have to work out the cap to see. But I think that’s a fairly good framework for a Provorov to STL trade.
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May 22, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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Would have to work out the cap to see. But I think that’s a fairly good framework for a Provorov to STL trade.


Thanks. Yeah I probs should've dug a little deeper on the Blues cap situation before I made it.
May 22, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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I like it all but you underpaid York, Cates, and Frost. I think they will each be around $3M. I also think the trades are good except the Oilers trade. Either Oilers add another 1st for taking Campbell’s contract or he gets taken out of the deal altogether. Either Hart for 1st, 2nd, Bour or Hart for 1st, 1st, 2nd, Bour, Campbell. Also not sure what value Samu has if any idk if he should even be in the deal.
May 22, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.
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Would have to work out the cap to see. But I think that’s a fairly good framework for a Provorov to STL trade.


Agreed, I think Provy fetchs a 1st from teams if the Flyers also take a contract back and Provy is still a better player than everyone thinks and has seen recently. On a more structured roster he would be better
May 22, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Thanks. Yeah I probs should've dug a little deeper on the Blues cap situation before I made it.


I personally would take the gamble on it as a Blues fan. It’s our 3rd pick in the draft. And our forward pipeline looks good. What could get messy though is the cap next season. I don’t think we’ll be players in the UFA market this off-season. But next I’d imagine we’re wanting to prettt heavy. Ideally if Provorov or another substantial cap hit player were brought in we would move out Krug somehow. I think that’s going to be a tough task though.
May 22, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.
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Agreed, I think Provy fetchs a 1st from teams if the Flyers also take a contract back and Provy is still a better player than everyone thinks and has seen recently. On a more structured roster he would be better


The issue is I’m not sure how much more structured our roster is after last season. But having Provorov and Leddy in the left at least allows us to shelter Krug on the 3rd pair while easing up the assignments that Parayko needs to take. STLs issue on defense stems a lot from having guys playing up a slot above what they would be best suited for. Two pairs of Parayko/Provorov and Faulk/Leddy could probably help balance that out quite a bit.

It’s just scary having 4 6.5m contracts and a 4m contract in defense and not being sure that your defense is a strength
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May 22, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Washington currently has Carlson, Jensen, and Van Riemsdyk on the right side all under contract for the next 3 years, there's no room for Deangelo in DC.
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May 22, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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For this Blues fan, not interested. Don;t want Provorov at all. And they cannot afford this right now anyway.
May 22, 2023 at 1:08 p.m.
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The issue is I’m not sure how much more structured our roster is after last season. But having Provorov and Leddy in the left at least allows us to shelter Krug on the 3rd pair while easing up the assignments that Parayko needs to take. STLs issue on defense stems a lot from having guys playing up a slot above what they would be best suited for. Two pairs of Parayko/Provorov and Faulk/Leddy could probably help balance that out quite a bit.

It’s just scary having 4 6.5m contracts and a 4m contract in defense and not being sure that your defense is a strength


Dude, we CANNOT add Provy's contract without subtracting one from the LDs. Impossible. And who wants to spend 17M+ on three unsuitable LDs anyway?
May 22, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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Dude, we CANNOT add Provy's contract without subtracting one from the LDs. Impossible. And who wants to spend 17M+ on three unsuitable LDs anyway?


To be honest with you, Provorov has been used fairly similarly to Parayko. I’m not so sure he’s unsuitable. Leddy was fairly decent last season given his assignment. My thought process is lightening the load on all 3 of Parayko, Leddy and Provorov should lead to much better results. It still allows for Krug to be pretty sheltered, and I think Faulk is more than capable of handling a bit more balanced of a usage.

Is it perfect? No. It’s certainly risky. But there aren’t a lot of good alternatives unless we’re just running it back straight up. Provorovs contract is pretty short term. It’s pretty low risk here. I agree it’s certainly not ideal to be using that much cap on defense without being sure of what we have. But I don’t see anyone taking Krug for a couple of seasons given how his contract is structured and his NTC.

We have a pretty strong forward prospect pool. Probably could stand to add a high end center and fill out the defense. But if we go into the draft with #10, 25, and the two early 3rds I think it’s realistic that we can add a center and take a few stabs on defenseman in the draft.
May 22, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.
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R word in Philly's case = Relocate.

LOL
May 22, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
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DeAngelo isn't fetching that return and he especially isn't going to be a fit in Washington.
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May 22, 2023 at 1:24 p.m.
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The issue is I’m not sure how much more structured our roster is after last season. But having Provorov and Leddy in the left at least allows us to shelter Krug on the 3rd pair while easing up the assignments that Parayko needs to take. STLs issue on defense stems a lot from having guys playing up a slot above what they would be best suited for. Two pairs of Parayko/Provorov and Faulk/Leddy could probably help balance that out quite a bit.

It’s just scary having 4 6.5m contracts and a 4m contract in defense and not being sure that your defense is a strength


Yeah I get the worries lol but I promise you however bad you think last season was for the Blues, the last 3 from the Flyers have been way worse defensively lol
May 22, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.
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R word in Philly's case = Relocate.

LOL


Yeah ha ha real original. Philly still is in the middle of the pack in attendance being one of the worst teams in the league the last few years but yeah relocate 🤡
May 22, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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DeAngelo isn't fetching that return and he especially isn't going to be a fit in Washington.


He might at a deadline if someone gets desperate but not in the offseason and agreed idk why Washington would need him
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May 22, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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To be honest with you, Provorov has been used fairly similarly to Parayko. I’m not so sure he’s unsuitable. Leddy was fairly decent last season given his assignment. My thought process is lightening the load on all 3 of Parayko, Leddy and Provorov should lead to much better results. It still allows for Krug to be pretty sheltered, and I think Faulk is more than capable of handling a bit more balanced of a usage.

Is it perfect? No. It’s certainly risky. But there aren’t a lot of good alternatives unless we’re just running it back straight up. Provorovs contract is pretty short term. It’s pretty low risk here. I agree it’s certainly not ideal to be using that much cap on defense without being sure of what we have. But I don’t see anyone taking Krug for a couple of seasons given how his contract is structured and his NTC.

We have a pretty strong forward prospect pool. Probably could stand to add a high end center and fill out the defense. But if we go into the draft with #10, 25, and the two early 3rds I think it’s realistic that we can add a center and take a few stabs on defenseman in the draft.


I cannot get over Leddy was decent. I have no idea what you were watching, man. He's soft, he's lazy and he brain naps all over the place.

And Provy has not been good since 20-21. And he's a team cancer. Hard pass on him, and hardest pass possible on trying to run Provy, Leddy and Krug as LDs. That's just nuts. I'd rather go Rosen, Perunovich and Scandella than those three.
May 22, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Caps say no. Might be a problem having Tony D that close to the capitol building...
May 22, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
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I’ll just report this and move on pretty sad to make generalizations like that


Idk what that guy's on about, Philly's not a half bad visit especially if you're a fan of american history.
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May 22, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
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I know its not until 2025 but 3 years of 31-33 year old Kevin Hayes isn't getting you a 1st rounder back
May 22, 2023 at 3:11 p.m.
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Krug would have to go in order to bring on Provorov....unless the trade leddy and shed scandella
May 22, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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I cannot get over Leddy was decent. I have no idea what you were watching, man. He's soft, he's lazy and he brain naps all over the place.

And Provy has not been good since 20-21. And he's a team cancer. Hard pass on him, and hardest pass possible on trying to run Provy, Leddy and Krug as LDs. That's just nuts. I'd rather go Rosen, Perunovich and Scandella than those three.


How is Provorov a cancer? Because he didn't want to wear the pride jersey?

Quoting: AC14
To be honest with you, Provorov has been used fairly similarly to Parayko. I’m not so sure he’s unsuitable. Leddy was fairly decent last season given his assignment. My thought process is lightening the load on all 3 of Parayko, Leddy and Provorov should lead to much better results. It still allows for Krug to be pretty sheltered, and I think Faulk is more than capable of handling a bit more balanced of a usage.

Is it perfect? No. It’s certainly risky. But there aren’t a lot of good alternatives unless we’re just running it back straight up. Provorovs contract is pretty short term. It’s pretty low risk here. I agree it’s certainly not ideal to be using that much cap on defense without being sure of what we have. But I don’t see anyone taking Krug for a couple of seasons given how his contract is structured and his NTC.

We have a pretty strong forward prospect pool. Probably could stand to add a high end center and fill out the defense. But if we go into the draft with #10, 25, and the two early 3rds I think it’s realistic that we can add a center and take a few stabs on defenseman in the draft.


I would agree that Provorov would be good partner for Parayko and could be similar to him and Bouw days. Plus Provorov only has two years left, so if it doesn't work - fine...
I would also agree that Leddy was fine in certain situations last year. He's not a good partner for Parayko but think he was more than adequate partner with Faulk. Mokumboi has a hard on for hating on Leddy but ignores or makes excuses for any faults that other players have such as Parayko and Kyrou...
May 22, 2023 at 7:31 p.m.
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How is Provorov a cancer? Because he didn't want to wear the pride jersey?


No, that was possibly the last straw. It's no secret that he is not liked in that room, the local writers have been on about it for a while. As to exactly how it got that way, I cannot tell you.



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I would agree that Provorov would be good partner for Parayko and could be similar to him and Bouw days. Plus Provorov only has two years left, so if it doesn't work - fine...

I would also agree that Leddy was fine in certain situations last year. He's not a good partner for Parayko but think he was more than adequate partner with Faulk. Mokumboi has a hard on for hating on Leddy but ignores or makes excuses for any faults that other players have such as Parayko and Kyrou...


1 - Yeah, sorry, I'm not willing to throw 2x6.5M and top line duties at an "oh well, if he doesn;t work then he's gone in two years" stuff. Like... why? Just get someone who you know works instead of taking a massive, expensive gamble and wasting seasons.

2 - First of all, comparing Parayko and Kyrou to Leddy is WOOF. Really? And what faults do I ignore? Failing to wildly over-exaggerate things is not "ignoring faults". And I routinely criticize both of those GOOD players when they screw up.

Also, almost all of Leddy's analytic numbers are worse with Faulk against 2nd lines than they are with Parayko against 1st lines, some as much as 10% worse. I can't stand Leddy because he's not good, we never should have traded for him and we never ever ever EVER should have brought him back on that idiotic contract.
 
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