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Marner to the Jets with Samsonov

Created by: JusticeWinslow1
Published: May 26, 2023 at 9:12 a.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because one of the teams does not meet the minimum 3 goaltender requirement

Logo of the Arizona CoyotesArizona Coyotes

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
McGregor, RyanArizona CoyotesMinor-$0011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Murray, MattToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$4,662,298011-------00
Robertson, NicholasWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsIR-$792,384011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$27,061,19013284941815
Change-$5,454,682121000
Final$21,606,508 (↓)14 (↑)30 (↑)50 (↑)41815000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Murray, MattToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$4,662,298011-------00
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$10,844,382011---0000--
Samsonov, IlyaToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$0011-------00
Robertson, NicholasWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsIR-$792,384011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hellebuyck, ConnorWinnipeg JetsNHL-$6,133,512011-------00
Ehlers, NikolajWinnipeg JetsNHL-$5,967,742011---0000--
Pionk, NealWinnipeg JetsNHL-$5,843,414011---0000--
McGregor, RyanArizona CoyotesMinor-$0011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$9,143,5501533472212
Change-$1,645,604000000
Final$7,497,946 (↓)1533472212000

Logo of the Winnipeg JetsWinnipeg Jets

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hellebuyck, ConnorWinnipeg JetsNHL-$6,133,512011-------00
Ehlers, NikolajWinnipeg JetsNHL-$5,967,742011---0000--
Pionk, NealWinnipeg JetsNHL-$5,843,414011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$10,844,382011---0000--
Samsonov, IlyaToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$0011-------00
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$12,992,1431532443410
Change$7,100,286-1-2-1000
Final$20,092,429 (↑)14 (↓)30 (↓)43 (↓)3410000
May 26, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.
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There's simply no chance Winnipeg overpays so badly for an overpaid winger that disappears when it counts.

With his contract, no one is giving up an elite goalie, a comparable winger when you factor in salary and a top 4 defenseman for Marner.
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May 26, 2023 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
There's simply no chance Winnipeg overpays so badly for an overpaid winger that disappears when it counts.

With his contract, no one is giving up an elite goalie, a comparable winger when you factor in salary and a top 4 defenseman for Marner.


I hate Marner but no chance you're saying Helle was that much better than Sammy this is and the Ehlers is "comparable" to Marner. I'd rather have Tavares than Ehlers and Pionk is a cap dump
May 26, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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Let me guess… Leafs fan.
May 26, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
There's simply no chance Winnipeg overpays so badly for an overpaid winger that disappears when it counts.

With his contract, no one is giving up an elite goalie, a comparable winger when you factor in salary and a top 4 defenseman for Marner.


A comparable winger? Money or not, marner's rookie season was the same as Ehlers best season points wise and he only had 3 more points than Marner. Marner has 6 seasons with more points and 3 90 pt seasons.

As for Helly, he gone at the end of the year so guess Winnipeg could get nothing for him.

Sure glad you don't run the Jets
May 26, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: JusticeWinslow1
A comparable winger? Money or not, marner's rookie season was the same as Ehlers best season points wise and he only had 3 more points than Marner. Marner has 6 seasons with more points and 3 90 pt seasons.

As for Helly, he gone at the end of the year so guess Winnipeg could get nothing for him.

Sure glad you don't run the Jets


Dollar for dollar. Ehlers is a better value. I know Leaf fans put a lot of value in points scored in the regular season, but that doesn't matter when Marner is a no show in the tough games in the playoffs.

The Jets won't lose Helle for nothing unless they want to. So no need to worry.

You may not want to acknowledge it, but the NHL has a salary cap and as Toronto has found out if you throw away a large portion of your cap on players that only want to play and put up points in easy games, it makes it very hard to build a successful team.

Marner simply isn't worth his contract. You can get 2 really good players for the same price.
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May 26, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Dollar for dollar. Ehlers is a better value. I know Leaf fans put a lot of value in points scored in the regular season, but that doesn't matter when Marner is a no show in the tough games in the playoffs.

The Jets won't lose Helle for nothing unless they want to. So no need to worry.

You may not want to acknowledge it, but the NHL has a salary cap and as Toronto has found out if you throw away a large portion of your cap on players that only want to play and put up points in easy games, it makes it very hard to build a successful team.

Marner simply isn't worth his contract. You can get 2 really good players for the same price.


You clearly don't look at Ehlers play playoff hockey. Saying Marner doesn't show up come the playoffs when he is nearly a ppg player is strange when Ehlers has 12 pts in 32 playoff games. If Marner doesn't show up, Ehlers is completely invisible.

Also try telling Fla that getting the best player in a deal where you give up two good players is the best route.

Your logic with Marner is flawed.
May 26, 2023 at 1:24 p.m.
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Hard yes from all 3 teams great trade they all get what they need
 
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