Is Carlsson falling a real thing?

don't see him getting past SJ, seems like everything Grier wants and SJ likes Swedes

Why would he fall?

No i doubt Columbus will take Will Smith over Leo Carlsson.

They are apparently high in smith, but you’re probably right and Carlsson and Gaudreau would be a good combo.

only because as @Rob32sjsharks said, jackets are extremely high on Smith. And then SJS seems to be in for a longggg rebuild so it wouldn't make sense to make their team better immediately by taking leo so michkov would be the far smarter selection imo

I have seen people worried about Carlsson’s offensive toolkit and ether he will be a top scorer in NHL. Smith’s 200 foot is probably underrated, but few doubt the offensive chops.

Doubt Carlsson drops very far…maybe 6 or 7. Still pretty high considering the competitiveness of this draft.

Michkov is a huge gamble! He isn’t fast and has issues with his compete level abd is undersized all things that Grier does not want so to me it’s Smith or Carlsson at 4.

Yet he'll be better than Kovalchuk & Malkin, and possibly even ovechkin... guess grier aint that guy then

Lmao that's a reach!

Smith is garbage defensively ... Carlsson isn't dropping past 5, likely goes 3rd OA
The ones who might drop are Will Smith or Matvei Michkov

Smith is not “garbage defensively”. He has a fairly complete 200-ft game. His defense is an asset.

No, it isn't, Leonard, Benson are good defensively, not Smith. Will Smith is focused on offense

Well, you are alone in that view. Smith is an offensive dynamo, but comes with strong 200 ft game too.

I find it hard to justify his D is garbage when he is plus 71 on the season. Even if he isn’t D focused I think it’s by design. You could say he is offense focused but to say he is garbage is crazy. And the arguement everyone else is fantastic on D and he is garbage just further proves my point! If he’s not needed for D and the coach wants him Offense focused is that really a bash on his D skill?

Maybe by design? Sorry but you don’t have his insane plus minus while being bad defensively

The guy has said his goal for Freshman year is to become a premier penalty killer. His defense is a big part of his game. RealisticGuy must have had him confused with Perreault.

For me I see flashes of a more offensive Couture!
And his stats are crazy similar to what Marner had his draft eligible season. He has decent speed and amazing offensive acumen if he can round out his D in college and add 10 pounds of muscle he could be a legit top line RW in 2-3 years. If he really rounds out his D game I could see him being a plus 1C

I think he stays at C. Only has to be able to handle defense, take draws, etc....and should be fine there.

Wouldn't want to take away half the ice from him. Would want him in open space.

Fair, but if he went to the sharks I would let him spend 2 years in NCAA then come over as a RW for a year or two before making the switch. I’m easier to get acclimated to the NHL on the wing then swap to C

Yeah, sure, I was thinking in his prime. Two years seems to be norm these days for top ncaa guys.

If Eklund goes to wing eventually? And Bordeleau? I know he is $$ on draws.

Eklund -- Smith -- (guy from EK65 trade)
Gushchin -- Bystedt -- Young
Lund -- Bordeleau -- Zetterlund
Raska -- Robins -- Coe

Thrun -- Mukhamadullin
(2023 1st) -- Havelid
Okhotiuk -- Fisher

Chrona
Mann

Starting to look pretty deep

Your lineup is decent but robins at 4C is weak he’s top 9 and more a RE due to size

My hope is in 4 years

Eiserman (24 draft) Eklund Smith (23)
Bordeleau Hertl Robins
Gushin Bystedt Zetterlund
Raska Lorentz Coe

Mukhamadulin (player from Karlsson deal)
Thurn Laroque
Ferraro Havelid

Hrabal (23) or Olsson (24)
Makiniemi/ Chrona

Nice. I left out the veterans just to do the kids. Forgot about Makiniemi. Don’t know anything about Laroque…will have to look him up. And saw Fisher play live in HIgh School. He is quick. Moves so well on the ice. I expect big things.