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Created by: pundystar

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: May 17, 2023

Published: May 30, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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... Matthews says he wants out, otherwise you stay the course.

After Sundin left, the conversation was always around not having that 1C and where to find him. I've been rewatching the Bulls Last Dance doc recently, it took Jordan and the Bulls 7yrs before their first championship; some recent 1C ... Lemieux 7yrs before his first cup, Sakic 8, MacKinnon 9, Yzerman 13, McDavid TBD (min 9). Yzerman is also a great comparable in terms of playoff GP. Detroit's first 11 yrs with Yzerman, twice they played >7 playoff games, twice they didn't make playoffs, and the other 7 years they played 7 games or less. You do not trade Matthews unless he wants to go!

After that ...

The Core:
Tavares has a NMC and it's a bad look of asking him to waive when there was such a big deal of the hometown kid coming back. Just resigned Mo last year with a NMC, he has showed he can be a playoff gamer, and you don't have another top pair D man pushing him out. Which leaves us with Marner/Nylander. I can't say which of the two has to fall on the sword as they both have their own pros and cons, so it comes down to the return package - but you don't sell for the sake of selling. If the return isn't there you don't. I looked at scenarios around both and I don't see a way the Leafs win those deals or if they do it doesn't make sense from the other teams side. I decided to keep them both as own rentals and re-evaluate at the TDL or next summer.

One small trade to give Robertson a fresh start and the Leafs pickup a young physical winger. Didn't pay much attention to the pick in the deal.

Moved on from most of the Leafs UFAs, other then Schenn and Acciari. Drouin gets a one year deal, a little below value, but gets to play with Matthews and Marner - a chance to run up his stats to get paid somewhere else the following year. Finally, went with Graves to fill out the D. Was really looking at Barbashev for a similar cap hit but felt the D needed more help then the fwd group.

Job one here though is getting the Matthews deal done.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya	3	$4,500,000
Abruzzese, Nick	2	$900,000
Holmberg, Pontus	1	$900,000
Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon	3	$800,000
Hollowell, Mac	2	$775,000
Král, Filip	2	$850,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Schenn, Luke	2	$800,000
Graves, Ryan	6	$5,500,000
Acciari, Noel	2	$1,350,000
Drouin, Jonathan	1	$2,000,000

Trades

TOR

Trenin, Yakov
2023 5th round pick (NSH)

NSH

Robertson, Nicholas

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$81,659,783	$0	$0	$840,217

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
Trenin, Yakov $1,700,000$1,700,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Holmberg, Pontus $900,000$900,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $1,350,000$1,350,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Lafferty, Sam $1,150,000$1,150,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Schenn, Luke $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 3	Samsonov, Ilya $4,500,000$4,500,000 G UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LD UFA - 6	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Abruzzese, Nick $900,000$900,000 LW, C RFA - 2

May 30, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.

Ennis

Joined: Oct. 2022

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Robo's size and injury history is a concern. We'd just keep Trenin.

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May 30, 2023 at 5:29 p.m.

Just_A_Guess

Joined: Apr. 2021

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No interest in Robertson, Trenin does just fine.

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May 30, 2023 at 5:33 p.m.

gmgb

Joined: Jun. 2017

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I'd roll the dice on Robertson for the 5th, but I definitely wouldn't trade Trenin for him.

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May 30, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.

RipNasty

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What has Samsonov done to warrant that contract? I would sooner move him for assets, keep Murray and run Will/Murray.

Also I don't know much about Graves but that seems like a huge contract for him.

May 30, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.

palhal

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Joined: Jul. 2015

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I don't know if the Leafs have any choice if the team is "blown up." Matthews and Nylander are UFAs in a year, Tavares and Marner two.
So many Leaf fans think Matthews is going to stay a Leaf unless he is traded. Think they don't know the meaning "UFA."

May 30, 2023 at 5:59 p.m.

pundystar

Thread Starter

Joined: Jun. 2016

Posts: 98

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Valid points on the NSH deal, not debating it.

An AAV of $4.5 would make Samsonov the 19th highest paid G next season, as it stands now, which is not crazy. I would not be opposed to moving Samsonov's rights, and running Woll/Murray. Actually would prefer that then paying picks for someone to take Murray, but can't trust his health. Graves may get slightly less but it'll be in that $5ish ballpark.

My take is, I'd rather keep them as my own rentals then give them away in a losing trade. You still have a good chance to win next year - if the team was just ok that's another story.

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