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Pinto for Hart

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2023
Published: Jun. 1, 2023
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1$1,200,000
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  1. Formenton, Alex [Reserve List]
  2. Joseph, Mathieu
  3. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
  4. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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It seems decent both ways but I would be surprised if they move Pinto. Although their center depth is outstanding so you never know.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:26 a.m.
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OTT declines, Greig is unproven and would be dumb to trade him hoping greig can replace him and his production.

anything more than a 2nd for Hart is a colossal rip off, he has not been better than Forsberg over the last few years and would not be a upgrade on Forsberg right now and OTT will not trade prime asses on hope he will get better.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Logicalicesports
It seems decent both ways but I would be surprised if they move Pinto. Although their center depth is outstanding so you never know.


Quoting: athrin
OTT declines, Greig is unproven and would be dumb to trade him hoping greig can replace him and his production.

anything more than a 2nd for Hart is a colossal rip off, he has not been better than Forsberg over the last few years and would not be a upgrade on Forsberg right now and OTT will not trade prime asses on hope he will get better.


As much as the sens like Pinto, a starting goalie is more important than a 3rd line centre. Especially when there's a high probably Greig can fill that role sooner rather than later. If he can't, a 3C hole is not that hard to fill. With Stutzle and Norris signed for the next 7+ years, might be smart to move Pinto for a position of need
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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As much as the sens like Pinto, a starting goalie is more important than a 3rd line centre. Especially when there's a high probably Greig can fill that role sooner rather than later. If he can't, a 3C hole is not that hard to fill. With Stutzle and Norris signed for the next 7+ years, might be smart to move Pinto for a position of need


Hart is not even worth Greig yet alone Pinto, trading a 22 YO who just scored 20 goals for a G that has sucked the last few years is idiotic, you do not open a hole to fill a hole because your left with a hole and there is a even bigger chance Hart does not fill that hole at G than Greig filling the 3C hole.

bad trade, OTT would NEVER do this
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
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20 man roster wouldn't work. You'd be over the cap like 2 hours after the very first player was recalled
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
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Hart is not even worth Greig yet alone Pinto, trading a 22 YO who just scored 20 goals for a G that has sucked the last few years is idiotic, you do not open a hole to fill a hole because your left with a hole and there is a even bigger chance Hart does not fill that hole at G than Greig filling the 3C hole.

bad trade, OTT would NEVER do this


Hart did not suck even a little bit
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
20 man roster wouldn't work. You'd be over the cap like 2 hours after the very first player was recalled


gonna be interesting what they do to fit under the cap. Never thought I'd say that. Besides Joseph, there is no one making over $1M on this roster that I see them moving.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
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Hart did not suck even a little bit


I think Hart was the only reason Philly didn't come dead last and had somewhat of a respectable record.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
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Nothing in this deal makes me want to move Hart.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Nothing in this deal makes me want to move Hart.


Pinto?
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Pinto?


No, Coots, Frost, Cates, even Laughton all down the middle already and he's not beating any of them out.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
Hart is not even worth Greig yet alone Pinto, trading a 22 YO who just scored 20 goals for a G that has sucked the last few years is idiotic, you do not open a hole to fill a hole because your left with a hole and there is a even bigger chance Hart does not fill that hole at G than Greig filling the 3C hole.

bad trade, OTT would NEVER do this


Hart put up solid numbers and was stood on his head most nights. I don't see this trade being good for either team, but you are way undervaluing Hart.
 
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