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blockbuster trade

Created by: Leafs4life2323
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 3, 2023
Published: Jun. 3, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
DET
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Steeves, Alex
  4. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  5. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
  6. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
16$83,500,000$61,191,783$0$850,000$22,308,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jun. 3, 2023 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
cool story, good afternoon.


He’s a hyperbole.
Jun. 3, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs4life2323
For marner and nimela and Steve’s and picks yhe is


Wrong

Quoting: Newtown
For sure, a 26 year old 99 point Selke finalist and a 1st round pick and Neimela…definitely not enough.


With term and other factors involved, correct it’s not
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Jun. 3, 2023 at 5:46 p.m.
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Quoting: CoachCoach
Wrong



With term and other factors involved, correct it’s not


We are aware only McDavid would be enough. No need to continue the charade.
Jun. 3, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
We are aware only McDavid would be enough. No need to continue the charade.


Nope, it depends on other factors. There are a handful of players where Detroit just couldn’t turn an offer down for him, Marner for two seasons just isn’t one. If Marner was at 5+ years, and Detroit had other RHD in the pipeline I could see a case made. I wouldn’t like it but logistically it would be dumb not to
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Jun. 3, 2023 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
Toronto isn’t offering Marner a first and a Dman that would go in the first round of a redraft for Seider — a fan boy is. So no worries.


No sane person would take Marner for Mo given their contract status. Not even counting marners ability to choke every playoff series
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Jun. 3, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Savage27
No sane person would take Marner for sieder given their age and contract status. Not even counting marners ability to choke every playoff series


So misinformed. Marner has played 7 years and made the playoffs in each one of those. Marner put up 14 points in 11 playoffs games this season. Marner is not only 26 years old but has averaged over 100 points per 82 games the last 2 years. Marner was also voted first team all-star at RW the past 2 seasons. Beating out players like Rantanen, Pasternak and Kucherov. Marner is also 33rd all-time in career PPG. Did I mention he led the entire NHL in takeaways this year? Oh, I also forgot to mention he’s a finalist for the Selke trophy — meaning he’s currently considered a top 3 defensive forward in the entire NHL.

When is Moritz Seider going to even make the playoffs?
Jun. 3, 2023 at 6:09 p.m.
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Seider and Larkin represent the foundation of a 6 year and counting rebuild process. How likely is it that the wings will replace seider with another #1 RHD? Almost impossible from their existing org depth chart, and future draft prospect(as they move to the mushy middle). Marner is a top tier player, but for Det would fill the 4th or 5th rebuild priority (1C,#1LHD, goalie, then scoring winger). That’s why this trade would never happen.
Jun. 3, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
So misinformed. Marner has played 7 years and made the playoffs in each one of those. Marner put up 14 points in 11 playoffs games this season. Marner is not only 26 years old but has averaged over 100 points per 82 games the last 2 years. Marner was also voted first team all-star at RW the past 2 seasons. Beating out players like Rantanen, Pasternak and Kucherov. Marner is also 33rd all-time in career PPG. Did I mention he led the entire NHL in takeaways this year? Oh, I also forgot to mention he’s a finalist for the Selke trophy — meaning he’s currently considered a top 3 defensive forward in the entire NHL.

When is Moritz Seider going to even make the playoffs?


Great player, racks up stats in the regular season but he can’t handle the physicality and pressure of playoff games especially elimination ones. Mo plays a more valuable position and is a true #1 with all his cost controlled years ahead of him. No one is trading that for 2 years of marner loooool
Jun. 3, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Savage27
Great player, racks up stats in the regular season but he can’t handle the physicality and pressure of playoff games especially elimination ones. Mo plays a more valuable position and is a true #1 with all his cost controlled years ahead of him. No one is trading that for 2 years of marner loooool


He has 47 points in 50 career playoff games. 14 in 11 games this year.

Prior to this year Matthew Tkachuk had 15 points in 27 playoff games.

Saying Marner chokes in the playoffs is comical. But it is better to choke in the playoffs the to choke in the regular season like Seider.
Jun. 3, 2023 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
Mo Seider is the greatest defenceman ever.


Man this is the argument you guys always default to, huh
Jun. 3, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
I still wouldn't do that deal. It would 100% be worth it, but how are we better off afterwards? It just wouldn't make sense.


Idk man EP is ****in phenomenal.
Jun. 3, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Man this is the argument you guys always default to, huh


It was a hyperbole in response to a hyperbole.
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Jun. 3, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
He has 47 points in 50 career playoff games. 14 in 11 games this year.

Prior to this year Matthew Tkachuk had 15 points in 27 playoff games.

Saying Marner chokes in the playoffs is comical. But it is better to choke in the playoffs the to choke in the regular season like Seider.


Lmfao the leafs aren’t rebuilding, way to make their failure sound better. Marner is the leaf’s best player but he shoots blanks in game 7s. Remember the puck over glass against MtL?
Jun. 3, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
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Idk man EP is ****in phenomenal.

Agreed completely, but you don't win in this league without at least one superstar defender. I'm MUCH more comfortable having offense by committee and an amazing defense, than the reverse. If Edvinsson turns into what we all think he can, that defense will be a thing of nightmares for other teams for the next decade+
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Jun. 3, 2023 at 11:07 p.m.
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Everyone seems to only look at playoffs and stats and forgets age, cap hit and contract length.

Marner is a top tier player, nobody is saying he is not, but he is older, makes way more money and his contract is shorter where as Seider is controlled for many years. What fans forget to look at are the whole big picture not just points.

Lastly Toronto fans seem to go back to is that the Wings have not been in the pl layoffs for 7 years, but until the Leafs drafted guys like Marner, Nylander, Reilly and finally Matthews they were in the playoffs once in 11 years. So please do not use that tact, because they seem to forget that. Stevie is trying to rebuild the Wings, a team that berift of talent and need to be torn down and rebuilt. He has drafted well, made some good trsdesand is trying not only to get them back to the playoffs but make it so they are built for the long haul.
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Jun. 4, 2023 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Savage27
Lmfao the leafs aren’t rebuilding, way to make their failure sound better. Marner is the leaf’s best player but he shoots blanks in game 7s. Remember the puck over glass against MtL?


Marner has made the playoffs every year of his career. He had 14 points in 11 games. 47 in 50. Leafs advanced as far as all teams except for 4. <——Things Detroit Red Wings and Mo Seider wish they did.

People trolling on Marner are laughable when it becomes clear he’s done more than ANY player on their roster. 26 year old averages OVER 100 points per 82 the last 2 seasons. 33rd ALL-TIME for PPG career in the entire history of the NHL. First team All-Star RW the last 2 years over Pasternak, Rantanen, Kucherov and every other RW. Selke finalist. Led the entire NHL in takeaways.

If Marner is garbage than the entire Red Wings team and organization is complete and utter trash. You need to stop. Nobody expects you to trade your precious Mo Seider for Marner but stop pretending Marner has no value and is trash. Mo Seider dreams of the playoffs, winning a round and getting 14 points in 11 games.
Jun. 4, 2023 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Newtown
Marner has made the playoffs every year of his career. He had 14 points in 11 games. 47 in 50. Leafs advanced as far as all teams except for 4. <——Things Detroit Red Wings and Mo Seider wish they did.

People trolling on Marner are laughable when it becomes clear he’s done more than ANY player on their roster. 26 year old averages OVER 100 points per 82 the last 2 seasons. 33rd ALL-TIME for PPG career in the entire history of the NHL. First team All-Star RW the last 2 years over Pasternak, Rantanen, Kucherov and every other RW. Selke finalist. Led the entire NHL in takeaways.

If Marner is garbage than the entire Red Wings team and organization is complete and utter trash. You need to stop. Nobody expects you to trade your precious Mo Seider for Marner but stop pretending Marner has no value and is trash. Mo Seider dreams of the playoffs, winning a round and getting 14 points in 11 games.


Marner has limited value because of his contract how hard is that to understand. Also goose eggs in 8/10 career game 6s or 7s hes played. Not clutch
Jun. 4, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Savage27
Marner has limited value because of his contract how hard is that to understand. Also goose eggs in 8/10 career game 6s or 7s hes played. Not clutch


Matthew Tkachuk had limited value because of his contract…Top players have value. But it really don’t matter cause he isn’t gonna be traded for scraps.
 
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