I am happy he wants to leave personally.

It appears Canadiens fans are butt hurt that they dont have the leverage that they once did while also not understanding player valuation

Adding to the decling value effect of a young guy wanting out for the last 2 seasons ... and you have a lesser deal in hand.

I don't think it can be compared using the sign and trade side as there's only ever been one, and im sure GMs wont use that comparison looking at how it went down. I can't think of another comparable tho. Horvat is a goodish player comp, but he's older and was a tdl trade. Only other similar trade comps I can rummage up are Meier and O'Reilly, but they're iffy.

So...
-Horvat

for

-17ovr
-Beauviller
-Raty

and

-O'Reilly+Acciari

for

-Gaudette
-Abramov
-25ovr
-76ovr
-2024 2nd

and

-Meier
-not gonna write allat(srsly did they just buy all of the flight tickets to New Jersey and say here ya go?)

for

-Johnsson
-Mukhamadullin
-Zetterlund
-26ovr
-2024 conditional 7th

So, I'd think the structure would be in the ballpark of a 1st+2024 2nd+A- to B+ prospect with high upside+cap dump. For that reason, I'd expect something similar to

-31ovr
-Calgary's 2025 1st(might be good looking at that team)
-Colorado's 2024 2nd
-Dvorak
-Ylonen
(+ one of Kidney, Mesar, Davidson, Struble, etc.)

In none of the above trades was a top prospect really handed out. For that reason, I'd think(emphasis on the I) that Roy, Dach, Farrell, Hutson and 5OA are tougher to get.

Just my two cents(or 1 if you didn't make it this far) anyway, good day!)

I think his value is a little more similar to Fiala last year
17 overall and Faber
Fiala is a bit better but Dubois plays a more important position. But Fiala never said he didn’t want to play in Minnesota. So a little bit less value. Also 17 overall last year = 25 overall this year.
So Dubois is worth 27 overall and a prospect like Faber
I think Kidney = Faber at the time of the trade
So the trade would be :
Kidney
31 overall
Whatever is necessary to go up four spot, maybe a third or Edmunson

I like that!, oh and it was 19ovr Liam Ohgren.