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Who says no

Created by: buttscarlton
Published: Jun. 13, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,923,387011---0000--
Dubé, DillonCalgary FlamesNHL-$2,287,634011---0000--
Mangiapane, AndrewCalgary FlamesNHL-$5,768,817011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$6,924,934011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,250,000183550358
Change$6,054,904-2-2-2000
Final$7,304,904 (↑)16 (↓)33 (↓)48 (↓)358000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$6,924,934011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,923,387011---0000--
Dubé, DillonCalgary FlamesNHL-$2,287,634011---0000--
Mangiapane, AndrewCalgary FlamesNHL-$5,768,817011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$9,143,5501533472212
Change-$6,054,904222000
Final$3,088,646 (↓)17 (↑)35 (↑)49 (↑)2212000
Who says no
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
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Augustus
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The Flames say no right away. Too many good assets for just one.
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Dutchies
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Quoting: Augustus
The Flames say no right away. Too many good assets for just one.


Not gonna disagree, but I also think the Leafs say no, cause this is way too much cap coming back, and honestly, I think both Dube and Mangiapane are overrated. Both guys have been given ample time in the top 6, and they have 1 good season between the 2 of them. I'm probably going to get some hatred from Flames fans for saying that, but i stand by it.
Jun. 13, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
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Calgary, zero chance they consider.
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
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Augustus
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Quoting: Dutchies
Not gonna disagree, but I also think the Leafs say no, cause this is way too much cap coming back, and honestly, I think both Dube and Mangiapane are overrated. Both guys have been given ample time in the top 6, and they have 1 good season between the 2 of them. I'm probably going to get some hatred from Flames fans for saying that, but i stand by it.


Lol, well, I feel the same way you do about Mangiapane right now, but on the Dube front, I do think he'll end up being a 20-25 goal, 50-60 point scorer in the NHL, with an intangible or two.
Jun. 13, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Augustus
Lol, well, I feel the same way you do about Mangiapane right now, but on the Dube front, I do think he'll end up being a 20-25 goal, 50-60 point scorer in the NHL, with an intangible or two.


It's possible he's only 24. He's got a few years to make the jump.
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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What if it was Marner instead of Nylander? or if it was Nylander plus Robertson?
Jun. 13, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
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What if it was Marner instead of Nylander? or if it was Nylander plus Robertson?


Marner has less value to the Flames than Nylander. Much less. We already have a pass first winger making 10.5 mil/year we don't need another making even more. What Calgary needs is a goal scorer preferably one with some size and speed. Robertson isn't worth much to us either he'd be destined for the Wranglers.
Jun. 13, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Dutchies
It's possible he's only 24. He's got a few years to make the jump.


Went from 18 goals and 32 points in 2021-22 up to 18 goals and 45 points in 2022-23. If these current trends continue, ehhhhh, but hopefully also with more goals.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:02 a.m.
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Leafs add Brodie and accept
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.
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Quoting: JusticeWinslow1
Leafs add Brodie and accept


We don't want or need brodie lol
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Jun. 14, 2023 at 5:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Dont_Fire_Brad_Trelving
We don't want or need brodie lol


Yeah there are reasons we didn't keep him in the first place.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
Quoting: Augustus
Went from 18 goals and 32 points in 2021-22 up to 18 goals and 45 points in 2022-23. If these current trends continue, ehhhhh, but hopefully also with more goals.


The Flames need to stop trying to turn Dube into a RW he's best at Center or LW. They made the same mistake with Sam Bennett and look how he exploded once he went to a team that utilized him properly. Put Dube at LW or Center give him linemates with some skill and he'll be fine.

Dube with some combination of Ruzicka, Dueher, Pelletier or Coronato would be good to see.

Dube - Ruzicka - Pelletier/Coronato/Dueher
Ruzicka - Dube - Pelletier/Coronato/Dueher
Pelletier - Dube - Dueher
 
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