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Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2023
Published: Jun. 14, 2023
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2$2,492,000
2$2,203,000
2$2,192,000
2$975,000
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PHI
  1. 2023 4th round pick (ANA)
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  1. Deangelo, Anthony
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PHI
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Tullio, Tyler
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Konecny, Travis ($1,500,000 retained)
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PHI
  1. Boqvist, Adam
  2. Roslovic, Jack
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (LAK)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($2,000,000 retained)
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Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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I’d be cool with all of these except Roslovic would have to be contingent on us flipping him to a 3rd team with retention to get another pick. Torts hates him he won’t play for this team
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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"No thank you" :Oilers
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
I’d be cool with all of these except Roslovic would have to be contingent on us flipping him to a 3rd team with retention to get another pick. Torts hates him he won’t play for this team


One season and to make cap work was the only reason I included him also think taking him on helps get Boquvist which was the main piece I wanted.
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Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: OilednGreasy
"No thank you" :Oilers


The way I see it is;
Holloway, Tullio, 1st, 2nd for TK
2nd and yams for taking on the contract

I think its pretty fair and Holloway should be the target for the Flyers not Broberg. What do you think is unreasonable?
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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For Boqvist alone, PHI would have to retain half on Hayes and probably add a 3rd.
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Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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For Boqvist alone, PHI would have to retain half on Hayes and probably add a 3rd.


Gonna keep him on the third pair?? Not much on the FA center market and hayes at 5m is a good deal
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
The way I see it is;
Holloway, Tullio, 1st, 2nd for TK
2nd and yams for taking on the contract

I think its pretty fair and Holloway should be the target for the Flyers not Broberg. What do you think is unreasonable?


Oilers aren't adding anything to move Yamamoto. If no teams want him he can be waived to cost $1,950,000, and if teams still don't want him after he could then be sent down at any point of the season without going through waivers the Oilers can buy him out for $433,334 next season and $533,334 in 24/25. Yamamoto is not near as bad as people are trying to make him out to be too. Oilers fans and media love to chase players out of town, see: Jordan Eberle.

Oilers need to be better defensively. Edmonton's best offence in the league doesn't really need Konecny, but I could see it as Philly wants to do him a solid while he's in his prime and they're rebuilding with the understanding that they want him back when he's a UFA. This is if TK thinks he's got a chance to win in EDM. The Oilers will not be able to sign him, Draisaitl's contract is up at the same time.

It's been reported that the Flyers head european scout from Sweden may like Broberg, but...

I believe the best Philly could hope for from the Oilers after retaining 1/2 of TK's contract is receiving Broberg or Bourgault, Yamamoto, 1st and a 2nd in return. Holloway is needed now and I think unavailable.
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Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
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Hayes isn't worth Boqvist 1 for 1, even with retention
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
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Oilers aren't adding anything to move Yamamoto. If no teams want him he can be waived to cost $1,950,000, and if teams still don't want him after he could then be sent down at any point of the season without going through waivers the Oilers can buy him out for $433,334 next season and $533,334 in 24/25. Yamamoto is not near as bad as people are trying to make him out to be too. Oilers fans and media love to chase players out of town, see: Jordan Eberle.

Oilers need to be better defensively. Edmonton's best offence in the league doesn't really need Konecny, but I could see it as Philly wants to do him a solid while he's in his prime and they're rebuilding with the understanding that they want him back when he's a UFA. This is if TK thinks he's got a chance to win in EDM. The Oilers will not be able to sign him, Draisaitl's contract is up at the same time.

It's been reported that the Flyers head european scout from Sweden may like Broberg, but...

I believe the best Philly could hope for from the Oilers after retaining 1/2 of TK's contract is receiving Broberg or Bourgault, Yamamoto, 1st and a 2nd in return. Holloway is needed now and I think unavailable.


I don't think he's a bad player just not worth the money. In this you're replacing Yamamoto's money for 400k more and more production. Adding TK next Mcdavid or Draisaitl I could easily see him being an 85+ point guy. I don't think it's about doing the player a solid I think there's a fit in EDM for a scoring winger with speed and tenacity. Would I hate the trade being around Broberg? No but I think a winger makes more sense in return. Even if Yamamoto make it though waivers that's still money and a contract spot that could be put to use elsewhere.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: BoomerTheHero
Hayes isn't worth Boqvist 1 for 1, even with retention


So he sits on the third pair and you still have a glaring hole at center? Unless you think Jiricek isn't playing or for his first season will be on the third pair?
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: flyersarephilly
I don't think he's a bad player just not worth the money. In this you're replacing Yamamoto's money for 400k more and more production. Adding TK next Mcdavid or Draisaitl I could easily see him being an 85+ point guy. I don't think it's about doing the player a solid I think there's a fit in EDM for a scoring winger with speed and tenacity. Would I hate the trade being around Broberg? No but I think a winger makes more sense in return. Even if Yamamoto make it though waivers that's still money and a contract spot that could be put to use elsewhere.


The Oilers have McLeod, Kostin, and Bouchard to sign too. More money has to go out then comes in.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.
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So he sits on the third pair and you still have a glaring hole at center? Unless you think Jiricek isn't playing or for his first season will be on the third pair?


So yes i think Jiricek at least starts the season in the AHL, but even if he didnt, we could get a better return for Boqvist elsewhere.
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Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: OilednGreasy
Oilers aren't adding anything to move Yamamoto. If no teams want him he can be waived to cost $1,950,000, and if teams still don't want him after he could then be sent down at any point of the season without going through waivers the Oilers can buy him out for $433,334 next season and $533,334 in 24/25. Yamamoto is not near as bad as people are trying to make him out to be too. Oilers fans and media love to chase players out of town, see: Jordan Eberle.

Oilers need to be better defensively. Edmonton's best offence in the league doesn't really need Konecny, but I could see it as Philly wants to do him a solid while he's in his prime and they're rebuilding with the understanding that they want him back when he's a UFA. This is if TK thinks he's got a chance to win in EDM. The Oilers will not be able to sign him, Draisaitl's contract is up at the same time.

It's been reported that the Flyers head european scout from Sweden may like Broberg, but...

I believe the best Philly could hope for from the Oilers after retaining 1/2 of TK's contract is receiving Broberg or Bourgault, Yamamoto, 1st and a 2nd in return. Holloway is needed now and I think unavailable.


I agree. Defense is and was the problem. Yamo will find a team that wants him. If not what you described is preferable compared to sending a 2nd with him. I am not sure why you'd pay that much for TK if you don't really need a goal scorer and can have BUF's Olofsson for much less. I wouldn't pay a premium for a righty winger. I'd rather take on the Olofsson contract with a tanking team retaining 25% of his salary and paying a 2nd and a 3rd in total.
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Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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The Oilers have McLeod, Kostin, and Bouchard to sign too. More money has to go out then comes in.


I mean let's say Tk half retained is what happens the return is going to be larger than your suggestion 2.75M for a guy who just put up 61pts on a terrible team and is now going to be playing with on of the 2 best players in the world isn't going to cost a 1st 2nd good prospect and an under preforming overpaid third line wing.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.
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Gonna keep him on the third pair?? Not much on the FA center market and hayes at 5m is a good deal


Young, cheap, controllable, still developing. He's got plenty of value. He's got a market with plenty of other teams.

Hayes fits a need, but not really a player anyone (let alone CBJ) is going to go above and beyond to get.



Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
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I agree. Defense is and was the problem. Yamo will find a team that wants him. If not what you described is preferable compared to sending a 2nd with him. I am not sure why you'd pay that much for TK if you don't really need a goal scorer and can have BUF's Olofsson for much less. I wouldn't pay a premium for a righty winger. I'd rather take on the Olofsson contract with a tanking team retaining 25% of his salary and paying a 2nd and a 3rd in total.


Trying to turn people on too Olofsson eh nod . I dig that idea.

I said the best they could hope for... A lot of Flyers fans are getting fired up if Konecny isn't getting more than Eichel did now, so you gotta be careful when attempting a real conversation, lol
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
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Young, cheap, controllable, still developing. He's got plenty of value. He's got a market with plenty of other teams.

Hayes fits a need, but not really a player anyone (let alone CBJ) is going to go above and beyond to get.





Whole new management team now than there was in March. I get what you're saying though CBJ was also in a different place in march than now I think they're all in if they like the fit of hayes I could see them moving a better piece to do so
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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I mean let's say Tk half retained is what happens the return is going to be larger than your suggestion 2.75M for a guy who just put up 61pts on a terrible team and is now going to be playing with on of the 2 best players in the world isn't going to cost a 1st 2nd good prospect and an under preforming overpaid third line wing.


So the Flyers take a better deal from a team other than the Oilers. No harm no foul.
It does go along way when a team trades players where they want to go and/or where they have good opportunities though too, in attracting free agents, and making the team a destination players want. NHL players and agents talk to each other.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
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Trying to turn people on too Olofsson eh nod . I dig that idea.

I said the best they could hope for... A lot of Flyers fans are getting fired up if Konecny isn't getting more than Eichel did now, so you gotta be careful when attempting a real conversation, lol


Buffalo got an a level prospect, a good second liner, a 1st and a 2nd. Eichel probably should have gotten more but Buffalo was in no position to ask for anything more as Eichel wasn't going to get the surgery they wanted and would still be sitting on LTIR if they didn't take the best offer they got.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Buffalo got an a level prospect, a good second liner, a 1st and a 2nd. Eichel probably should have gotten more but Buffalo was in no position to ask for anything more as Eichel wasn't going to get the surgery they wanted and would still be sitting on LTIR if they didn't take the best offer they got.


Travis Konecny was drafted 24th overall, Xavier Bourgault drafted 22nd, so an A level right. Let me show you Zach Hyman who played with McDavid mostly on % compared to Kailer Yamamoto mostly with Draisaitl, Hyman vs Yamamoto. Could still be considered a 2nd line winger at only 24 I think, if given the right opportunity on the right team, 1st and 2nd round picks like I said. Eichel level trade.
You gotta remember that it was known that Eichel wanted to leave to everyone at the time also, and that was the best offer from a team he wanted to play on probably.
Jun. 14, 2023 at 3:53 p.m.
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Travis Konecny was drafted 24th overall, Xavier Bourgault drafted 22nd, so an A level right. Let me show you Zach Hyman who played with McDavid mostly on % compared to Kailer Yamamoto mostly with Draisaitl, Hyman vs Yamamoto. Could still be considered a 2nd line winger at only 24 I think, if given the right opportunity on the right team, 1st and 2nd round picks like I said. Eichel level trade.
You gotta remember that it was known that Eichel wanted to leave to everyone at the time also, and that was the best offer from a team he wanted to play on probably.


Exactly, it was known Eichel wanted out and he was injured with a neck injury that they surgery he wanted had never been performed on an NHL player. He was always going to get less than market value. I'm confused by the comparison between Hyman and Yamamoto are you just trying to show they have similar numbers? I think the big difference in opinion is value of Yamamoto. That said I know Holloway you said is needed would TK 50% retained for Holloway, 1st, 2nd, 2nd Ceci do it? I'm not against Bourgault but feel like it would follow the structure you said earlier.
 
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