4th Cup......

Still time to delete this

They have two years to win. Then depending on how those two years go you either let Sid walk and rebuild or continue to try and win a 5th.

Detroit doesn't want Rutta. Keep him.

Could be any team but I disagree. Stevey Y has had him before. Stanley cup champ. Solid D. He isn’t a camp dump. Detroit sucks it’s time to start adding players there in order to win? It’s a 4th round pick.

Cool story bro, good afternoon.

What makes you believe Comtois is a 1st liner? His stats are fairly unimpressive.

Gibson has a special place in my heart but both players combined in the Ana trade don't seem to be worth a 1st. Let alone the other pieces added, IMO.

lol Milan.. Lucic? come on bro. Dude is trash.

yeah it's more to do with the fact that this team isn't winning a 4th cup, nothing to do with Sid lol.

Gibson is burned and that third line is brutal.

You know they already have 5?

And that rooster is just terrible, 2 mil for Lucic? Stone? Gibson and Lyon? Accaria for 3 mil?

Yes, I mean Crosby era.

We are lucky if we can get luc for 2.

Bottom d is probably deadline upgrade. Hoping smith takes step. Gibson is a great goalie. Lyon is a fine backup. Acciari is a sick player.

This team is a hell of a lot better than it is currently.

They can for sure win in the next two years if they go for it aggressively…

Third line is better than hbk

Gibson is a great goalie

He’s actually not at all and some team is likely to give him more than $2m.

What lucic brings is extremely rare in the nhl nowadays and costs a premium but is worth every penny.

He isn’t on other teams but Crosby has always had ahl level talent on his wings and comtois I think would be a good fit. Skilled, big, fast and actually prefers to play on his off wing to bury one timers which would be deadly with Sid.

It’s a lot and if pens can get them for less then obviously do it but I think it will be at least this much amd would be fine paying it.

Wahhhhhhh

thanks for the laugh!

I don't think Crosby had AHL talent, at least not all the time.
Guys who are AHLers: Gibbons, Simon
Guys who are 3rd liners: Kunitz, Dupuis, Satan, Sheary, Rodriguez
Guys who are 2nd liners: Guerin, Hornqvist, McCann
Guys who are 1st liners: Rakell, Guentzel, Perron, Rust

But, if Comtois is a lesser talent (3rd or 4th liner) then he is probably only worth a 4th round pick. A 2nd and DeSmith should get Gibson.

So for the trade to work, drop POJ and the 1st and insert a 4th.

All true statements…

The pens have so many injuries for so many years those are common linemates but look at the list of players he has assisted on it’s huge and full of guys with <50 games. He hardly played with McCann, guerin was 40 years old and hornqvist never played top 6 any other time in his career.

Rust is debatable on first line anywhere else and wouldn’t be close if he wasn’t groomed by sid for years so Yeah…18 seasons and he has 1 legit first liner who he has played more than a season with. And that 1st liner probably was still a 3rd round pick it’s not like he had a draisaitl or a backstrom or Kane or marner or anything like any other top scorer. One of the many reasons I love 87.

But yeah if you can get Gibson and comtois for that absolutely do it but I doubt they give them up for that. I would be comfortable trading this in this trade but start lower and if they bite then great.

Lucic is 34 years old, and hasn't scored more than 23 points in 5 years, he's topped 10 goals twice in that span. This isn't the Milan Lucic that was a beast on Boston. I will agree that Boston Lucic was an extremely rare style of player in the NHL but nowadays, like I said, he's trash. It's not a premium, it's a waste of money. He's basically turned into a Ryan Reaves type player and we all saw out Sully loved it. He ain't worth anything nowdays.

I think the 1st is too much and I wouldn't want to trade POJ. Gibson really isn't worth more than a 2nd and hanging your hope on Sid elevating a lower forward is super risky.

The guys above all played >100 min with Sid in a given year. If you're talking top line guys, I would absolutely include Rakell, Rust, Perron, and Guentzel. McCann wasn't as good with the Pens, so I included him in the 2nd liners but he would be top 6.

He doesn't elevate guys like his reputation indicates. He can make 3rd liners look better but put a legit 1st liner next to him and it's night and day better.

You are correct, this guy is smokin' crack and still thinks Lucic is good. He's living in like 10 years ago.

If they can get him for less then do it and I think Comtois is top 6 calibre he just hasn’t found his way in Anaheim yet.

I’m saying over 18 years he has played with those 1st line guys for a very small portion of it. Most of it is with nobodies who he did elevate better than any player in history

Lucic is extremely valuable to any team. Ask any god damn player or coach in the league you mutt

That's totally fair. If you think he is based on observations but something hasn't clicked, I get that. I had the same opinion of Tage Thompson a few years ago.

My problem would be the return. Gibson and Comtois may need changes of scenery to be better, but the return would be somewhere between thinking they won't and hoping they will. To me that would be a 2nd and a 3rd. Maybe a B prospect too. Both guys may become better in a new place but as they are, they are not worth a 1st combined.

Don't get me wrong I like Gibson and think he is great, but he hasn't played great in 5 years.

none are. Gibson is burned out, and that isn't a better line than HBK, not close