Is this legal

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Created by: Artman91

Team: 2023-24 Los Angeles Kings

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 20, 2023

Published: Jun. 20, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kopitar, Anze		1	$5,000,000

Trades

LAK

ARI

Kopitar, Anze
2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
2025 3rd round pick (LAK)

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Is this a possibility Kings can do to save more cap? Trade Kopitar to Coyotes for a 2nd plus 3rd and then trade him back to LA and retain 50% of his contract?

It’s just a question, no need to start war.

Retained Salary Transactions

Ivan Provorov: $2,025,000 (30%)

Termination Fees

Mike Richards: $700,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
17	$83,500,000	$71,163,334	$0	$2,862,500	$12,336,666

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kempe, Adrian $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Kopitar, Anze $5,000,000$5,000,000	Fiala, Kevin $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6
Moore, Trevor $4,200,000$4,200,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Danault, Phillip $5,500,000$5,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Arvidsson, Viktor $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Iafallo, Alex $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Lizotte, Blake $1,675,000$1,675,000 C RFA - 1	Kaliyev, Arthur $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) RW, LW RFA - 1
	Byfield, Quinton $894,167$894,167 ($2,650,000$3M) LW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Grundström, Carl $1,300,000$1,300,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Doughty, Drew $11,000,000$11,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Copley, Pheonix $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Gavrikov, Vladislav $5,875,000$5,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 2	Roy, Matt $3,150,000$3,150,000 RD UFA - 1
Anderson, Michael $4,125,000$4,125,000 LD UFA - 8
Durzi, Sean $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD/RD RFA - 1

Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.

Konkarsson

Joined: Apr. 2022

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no.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.

cupofcoco

Cup of Coco

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no they can't... I think its against the CBA

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:03 p.m.

Artman91

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Quoting: cupofcoco

no they can't... I think its against the CBA

Thank you for your response. That’s what I figured since I have never seen this done. Arizona would be filled with retained player contracts haha.

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.

mmccRed198913

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Cannot circumvent the cap. Cool idea but no

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:05 p.m.

Artman91

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Quoting: mmccRed198913

Cannot circumvent the cap. Cool idea but no

Yeah if it was legal I’m sure Gary Bettman would have a heart attack seeing bottom market teams filled with retained contracts.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:07 p.m.

tryger

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Nope.

Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.

Artman91

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Quoting: tryger

Nope.

Kopitar may have been in the Coyotes hall of fame club

Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.

MoSeider53

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No, It's called circumventing the cap. Once you trade a player to a team that player has to remain on the trading teams roster up to one full calendar year.

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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NHL CBA 50.5.(e).(iii).(C).(4)

"Under no circumstances may a Club reacquire as part of a Retained Salary Transaction the SPC of a Player who was on that Club's Reserve List within the past calendar year;"

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Jun. 21, 2023 at 1:04 a.m.

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tkecanuck341

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Quoting: MoSeider53

No, It's called circumventing the cap. Once you trade a player to a team that player has to remain on the trading teams roster up to one full calendar year.

That's not true. The team that acquires him can trade him immediately, they just can't trade him back to the team that he was on (or any team he was on within the previous 12 months).

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