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Konecny

Created by: Leahyl29
Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2023
Published: Jun. 22, 2023
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This isn’t something I came up with. This is directly from an article in the athletic with hypothetical trades. Let me know what you think.
Trades
PHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
19$83,500,000$81,493,333$20,000$0$2,006,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.
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Feel like Scandella has to be included in that package - can add another later draft pick if needed. Think this is contingent on Buch being a full time center or us moving Kap/Vrana or Neighbours/Blais in another trade. Too many wingers, not enough centers.

I like Konecny though. Fits age range and has some term on a good contract.
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Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.
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Definitely not enough, partly because the picks will be late in their rounds, but probably another 1st short.

PHI isnt shopping koneckny, but will take an overpayment, and I dont think this is one
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Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Blues4Life
Feel like Scandella has to be included in that package - can add another later draft pick if needed. Think this is contingent on Buch being a full time center or us moving Kap/Vrana or Neighbours/Blais in another trade. Too many wingers, not enough centers.

I like Konecny though. Fits age range and has some term on a good contract.


You’re probably right about Scandella. They would probably have to attach a late pick to send him to PHI.
Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:59 a.m.
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Definitely not enough, partly because the picks will be late in their rounds, but probably another 1st short.

PHI isnt shopping koneckny, but will take an overpayment, and I dont think this is one


Interesting. There was a report that the only untouchable is Cutter so it seems like they’re shopping him. Doubt you get 2 1st for him tho.
Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:07 a.m.
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Quoting: Leahyl29
Interesting. There was a report that the only untouchable is Cutter so it seems like they’re shopping him. Doubt you get 2 1st for him tho.


They are definitely listening on offers but they aren’t desperate to get rid of him is what Hammer means because he still has 2 years left on his contract. By the way this offer, and the Atheltic in general, sucks lol. It’s been reported that DRW would be willing to move 17OA for TK and that’s just the start of the deal. This trade is already less than that in total.
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Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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Deal
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Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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Doug kind of shot down any idea of bringing in Konecny in his press conference yesterday
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Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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They are definitely listening on offers but they aren’t desperate to get rid of him is what Hammer means because he still has 2 years left on his contract. By the way this offer, and the Atheltic in general, sucks lol. It’s been reported that DRW would be willing to move 17OA for TK and that’s just the start of the deal. This trade is already less than that in total.


Yea I don’t disagree about the athletic. Flyers would be smart to move him now imo. Maybe Blues do 25 + 29 + Scandella. Kinda similar to the Schenn trade back in 2017.
Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.
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I see the Flyers will likely get a 1st, a 2023 2nd, and a high-end prospect for TK.
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Jun. 22, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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They are definitely listening on offers but they aren’t desperate to get rid of him is what Hammer means because he still has 2 years left on his contract. By the way this offer, and the Atheltic in general, sucks lol. It’s been reported that DRW would be willing to move 17OA for TK and that’s just the start of the deal. This trade is already less than that in total.


Theyre listening but not selling. If someone is going to massively overpay then they'll sell. All PHI has said is anyone can be had for the "right price", and that right price for young guys playing at a high level is probably not run of the mill market value, especially given the state of the UFA group this year.

Really its about selling high and koneckny the last 2 yrs has put up great numbers on a great contract on a team missing most of its best offensive players, without koneckny getting a massive increase in playing time or prime minutes. (Last yr, Couturier their 1C and Atkinson their 2RW missed all season, the previous season it was Couturier, Hayes, Farabee and Giroux all missing 20 games or more), so if playing with a good or at least healthy top 6, koneckny should easily get those totals if not more. SO Im not thinking Koneckny is at a career high selling point and given the age of the flyers and the amount of youth theyre playing now, theres no reason to part with a Koneckny, except for an overpayment.

In a league where struggling ROR gets a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd (Im thinking Acciari got the 4th and the prospect) as a TDL acquisition for just 20 or so games, then a Koneckny, who's a pretty easy resign, should get more
Jun. 22, 2023 at 11:26 a.m.
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Yea I don’t disagree about the athletic. Flyers would be smart to move him now imo. Maybe Blues do 25 + 29 + Scandella. Kinda similar to the Schenn trade back in 2017.


Two late 1sts and a cap dump still won’t get it done. If Wings over 17OA, and early 2nd, and a prospect that is miles better than the offer you just said
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Jun. 22, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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Two late 1sts and a cap dump still won’t get it done. If Wings over 17OA, and early 2nd, and a prospect that is miles better than the offer you just said


Yzerman had a press conference the other day and I don't think he's moving 17 for anyone thats not locked up long term in the 18-27 age range
Jun. 23, 2023 at 4:28 a.m.
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Interesting. There was a report that the only untouchable is Cutter so it seems like they’re shopping him. Doubt you get 2 1st for him tho.


Untouchable is different from shopping. Thats a big leap.

Briere in his press conference yesterday said nothing is off the table. Which means if you offer something PHI really wants or overpay, they'll move anybody. Briere has said publicly he'll listen on anything, thats taking calls, not making them.

A late 1st and 2nd isn;t what Koneckny is worth right now, let alone an overpayment, and with this free agent crop, he's worth more and theres a reason theres 3-4 teams on here each day wanting him. Its just not enough to make PHI move him, which they don;t have to, and this idea that NOW is the time to deal him is based on what? (Hes performed this way the past few years with the flyers missing half their top 6 offensive forwards and the team unable to score, so imagine if he plays with real top 6 guys on a team that can score)
 
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