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Win-Win with Philly

Created by: TheDONKLord
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2023
Published: Jul. 10, 2023
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Assuming that Couturier is moved to LTIR, Philly still has about $13M after the trade to sign Cates and Frost. Philly adds Branny as a low-risk project. Joseph will expire before they want to be competitive. They add a 1st rounder to keep filling the prospect pool.

Ottawa can use Konency on either the 2nd or 3rd line and gives them multiple options in the middle 6 and on PP2.

$500k retained to give Ottawa room for 2 players under $1M as scratches. Ottawa can add a 4th if needed.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Konecny, Travis ($500,000 retained)
PHI
  1. Brännström, Erik
  2. Joseph, Mathieu
  3. 2024 1st round pick (DET)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,234,047$0$1,850,000$265,953
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW
RFA - 1

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 3:14 a.m.
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dont think Flyers accept, the conditions on the detroit pick make it a pretty weak first rounder and Brännström is not a high enough quality to make the deal worth it for philly.

Also dont think any team would retain 500k this year. Retention slots is a prime asset this year for rebuilding teams.

its a close deal but Flyers dont have to move TK, i think he is pretty ok with staying a Flyer.
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Jul. 10, 2023 at 3:17 a.m.
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Konency costs a noteworthy amount more. Package should be the same value as Cat, if not more because of the contract already being done and Trav coming off a better year.
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Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:09 a.m.
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Mathieu Joseph is in every Sens trade I see. Gets tossed around like he’s some piece of meat. LOL
Jul. 10, 2023 at 7:20 a.m.
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Given that Coots was given the green light to play last season, they just kept him off to not risk anything over a done season, this whole idea falls apart unless he somehow gets injured again.

Briere isn't believed to be shopping TK atm, so unless you blow him away this trade isn't happening. Retaining 500k is also not happening, since its such a measly amount to spend a retention slot for.
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Jul. 10, 2023 at 8:51 a.m.
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As everyone else said, this deal isn’t close for TK
Jul. 10, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Ducks92
Mathieu Joseph is in every Sens trade I see. Gets tossed around like he’s some piece of meat. LOL


its the only guy that can be used to match cap space in a trade other than Forsberg
Jul. 10, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.
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Probably have to throw in Greig to get any conversation started but this trade is essentially quantity over quality and no where close.
Jul. 10, 2023 at 3:53 p.m.
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Jul. 10, 2023 at 8:37 p.m.
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Pretty good proposal and fair IMO

Of course Flyers fans will complain but this is more than what DeBrincat returned.

I would not trade Brannstrom for Kubalik, 4th and Sebrango.

Quoting: Wqrrior
Konency costs a noteworthy amount more. Package should be the same value as Cat, if not more because of the contract already being done and Trav coming off a better year.


This is a better package. DeBrincat is signed 4 years, Konecny only 2

Quoting: Ducks92
Mathieu Joseph is in every Sens trade I see. Gets tossed around like he’s some piece of meat. LOL


Result as Dorion mismanaging the cap (among everything else) and now that they hear Tarasenko might sign, they want to clear salary. I'd rather sign Tatar and keep Joseph

Quoting: Tchuckycheese
Probably have to throw in Greig to get any conversation started but this trade is essentially quantity over quality and no where close.


You'd seriously add Greig to a better package than what DeBrincat returned? Greig, who was not offered in a trade for Chychrun? That they would rather give a high first round pick
Jul. 10, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
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Pretty good proposal and fair IMO

Of course Flyers fans will complain but this is more than what DeBrincat returned.

I would not trade Brannstrom for Kubalik, 4th and Sebrango.



This is a better package. DeBrincat is signed 4 years, Konecny only 2



Result as Dorion mismanaging the cap (among everything else) and now that they hear Tarasenko might sign, they want to clear salary. I'd rather sign Tatar and keep Joseph



You'd seriously add Greig to a better package than what DeBrincat returned? Greig, who was not offered in a trade for Chychrun? That they would rather give a high first round pick


I disagree that its better because Brannstrom isn't a fit on the Flyers. He would quickly find himself out of Tortz system. Joseph is valueless if not negative for what the flyers are doing as well.

Flipping the first and throwing in two unused bodies will not be a good move, and is absolutely a downgrade on the package. Trading a guy coming off a down year vs a guy coming off on a good year will also have impacts on the value. As well as Cat having a say to where he goes as opposed to Konencny's contract being much more movable now.

This package will need to be higher. I repeat that it needs a noteworthy upgrade in value.
Jul. 11, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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I disagree that its better because Brannstrom isn't a fit on the Flyers. He would quickly find himself out of Tortz system. Joseph is valueless if not negative for what the flyers are doing as well.

Flipping the first and throwing in two unused bodies will not be a good move, and is absolutely a downgrade on the package. Trading a guy coming off a down year vs a guy coming off on a good year will also have impacts on the value. As well as Cat having a say to where he goes as opposed to Konencny's contract being much more movable now.

This package will need to be higher. I repeat that it needs a noteworthy upgrade in value.


Some people really have a hard time differentiating value and team needs. This is 2 completely different conversations.

Yet you talk about value like if it was influenced by your own team needs. I was talking about market value, obviously

My race car doesn't have less value on the market because someone is incapable of driving manual. You just have 1 less suitor

Your other points, while valid, are off-topic. we were talking about the market value of the return, not the intrinsic value of DeBrincat or Konecny
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