Detroit wishes the other two teams well as they leave the call.

Would follow Yzerman's course on adding mid D-men that he's been doing past two years.

Joking aside...

Walman / Seider
Ghost / Petry
Chiarot / Holl
Lindström

...could work imo. At the very least there's certain element of depth in that D.

Yzerman is a master God. That's why Vrana, Chiarot, and Holl are such brilliant moves.

Trades vs FA which holds to how he operates. Personally I think he is just fine overpaying FA stop gaps while not worrying about the cap ceiling. Ultimately he has the future defensive unit in Detroit.

His press conferences show he is wanting the kids to beat out vets for jobs. With them on ELCs, doesn’t really matter at the current juncture. When Chiarot is gone, Edvinsson will need his raise. When Holl is gone, Wallinder needs his.

Petry would have been a better fit for Detroit than Holl in my opinion, couple million more with one year less… but either way it doesn’t hurt long term.

You seem angry sir. Why not just enjoy the old rivalry and not feel the need to take pop shots.

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Go easy on him, he's probably come to the realization that Petry will be in Pittsburgh for 2 more seasons because NOBODY wants him.

Care to mention we also received Buchelnikov and Cossa from the Vrana trade?

And the best piece from that trade was squandered to St. Louis for scraps at 50% retention.

Vrana played a whole 42 games for Detroit. Injury bug mixed with the PA issues; it sucks to see him go, but it certainly was for the better.
But, rather have Cossa and Buchelnikov than a player that scarcely played due to complications.

The problem with this is Maatta. He's not getting moved for Petry. You want to 1 for 1 someone for Petry, it's Chiarot. I wouldn't even consider Petry an upgrade to justify the swap with Maatta. That said Pens would need to add a couple seconds to the deal to make it worth while for Detroit. So that would basically cancel out your trade but saying for some messed up reason it went through. Maybe that would be enough for them to trade Karlsson. Not really sure.

You'd think if Chiarot wants to compete for a cup, San Jose would probably be the last option to waive his NTC for.

That being said, Petry as an individual player is in my opinion an upgrade over Määttä, and a strong upgrade over Chiarot. Contract length is same between Petry and Määttä, and with the retention their difference is only $2M. I don't agree with your valuation of PIT having to add two seconds here to make it worthwhile for Detroit, they're literally adding a better player here that's a much better fit for a 2RD role than any other player in Detroit rn, including Määttä.

Could see PIT come down to offering like O'Connor+3rd at most to make this happen, but if DET insists on getting more, PIT would be looking for a more suitable team to swap Petry's contract with.

Ok I'll split the middle and say Petry is a slight upgrade, better suited for 2RD . R have Holl for that hole. See what I did there. Anyways for us to have the desire to help a rival team with their cap, there would have to be significant payment. We will argue at least a second. Look at it this way, Petry is absolutely immovable after coming to Detroit. They will make sure that any team that might have the slightest desire to acquire him is on his no trade list. Not to mention if we wanted to move him were have to use a retention slot. Now Maatta, who is a nice steady bottom 4 guy, would be alot easier to move and gain assets with. Reasonable cap hit so no retention needed. No trade protection so he can go anywhere.
You say if Detroit were to ask for more they would look for a more suitable team? The problem with his contract is there isn't a suitable team and if there is one he easily has them on his no trade list. His contract is basically immovable. Only two I see plausible is Chicago and why would they when they have 3 RHD as it is? They also charge a hefty fee.

Rival team is a bit of a stretch, PIT and DET aren't even in the same division, and DET is also getting upgrades here.

Any of the 16 teams not included in Petry's 15-team no trade list is a potentially suitable team to move Petry to. Also, Pittsburgh is partly retaining his salary here to boot. At two years, $5M I would not call it a huge stretch to assume there might be a market for him, as long as PIT (or in this case, SJ, also eats some cap). I get your concerns about potentially lost value in Määttä's case in the hypothetical scenario where DET ends up trading him for futures, but wouldn't you agree Detroit is already past that point? At this point what they need is to strengthen their core and aim for the playoffs, not to plan for the future. All moves they've made this offseason is towards that goal, including the signing of Määttä. I think moving him for a better veteran D is somewhat decent asset management.

If it all proves impossible, there's also an alternative route, albeit it's a harder one - that is to make this work without the third team and make the trade without including Petry. Karlsson-Letang-Petry is a fairly solid right side.

Btw sorry for double quoting again, my phone is very, very laggy.

16 teams would be hard. Have to remember there has to be a desire, cap space which is we eat half of that isn't that bad and be in his list of acceptable destinations. Either way I don't think we really want Petry unless it's really worth while for us.
On Detroit blue planning for the future, you read the moves this offseason the exact opposite. All these moves are just planning for the future. All those players are stop gaps until players drafted are ready for those rolls and then the ones with longer term like Copp and Compher will be there to help support them. This team definitely got better this offseason and playoffs aren't out of the question. I wouldn't say they are pushing for the playoffs but wouldn't be disappointed with them. One thing Yzerman said after the deadline last season that at no time were we ever going to be buyers this year. Didn't matter if we were in a playoff spot or not. I believe that Yzerman plans too build this team through the draft and that seems to be what he is doing. I expect playoffs in 1-2 years and start a window of contention in 2-4 years. So on your comment about trading Maatta for futures, we either gain more prospects or else we gain even more draft capital to buy with. That's actually why I chose later picks going to Detroit in my AGM.

Yea there definitely won't be 16 interested teams, there's just 16 teams that Petry would have to accept being traded to.

While I agree with the sentiment that buying guys like Chiarot and Holl are definitely stopgaps for guys like Edvinsson, it sounds rather weird they'd overpay on crap players simply to...not do well? (although that's exactly what they do lol). Galaxy brain tactics for sure, if the plan is to build through the draft, while giving others the view of them trying to improve, but choose guys that actually don't improve the team itself at all.

Back to the fundamental issue at hand from your own post (not this one) in my view, the concept of DET

a) getting better player, and
b) gaining future assets, while
c) dumping a dogsh*t player

for the simple act of retaining a total of $8M worth of salary in four years time, and being a desired location for a vet 2nd pair guy, sounds just way too good. At the very least the player they move away should be someone that's desirable from other teams' POV (Määttä for example).