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Olofsson and Pesce redo

Created by: Mikael_Smith
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 2, 2023
Published: Aug. 3, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Praying for Cainiac2000 approval
Also 890,000 under cap, most of that will likely be used on call ups
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Lemieux, Brendan
  2. Pesce, Brett ($1,200,000 retained)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
  5. 2024 4th round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
1.2m Retained by Ducks
2.
TOR
    Ducks retain 1.2m of Pesce’s contract
    ANA
    1. 2024 4th round pick (CAR)
    2. 2024 7th round pick (TOR)
    3.
    TOR
    1. Olofsson, Victor ($1,700,000 retained)
    2. 2025 5th round pick (BUF)
    BUF
    1. Lemieux, Brendan
    2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
    3. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
    4. 2024 6th round pick (TOR)
    Additional Details:
    Conditions on the pick are that it will be the lowest seeded puck owned by the leafs (CAR & TOR). 6th and 4th for retention.
    4.
    TOR
    1. Forbort, Derek
    2. 2024 6th round pick (BOS)
    BOS
    1. Robertson, Nicholas
    2. Timmins, Conor
    3. 2025 5th round pick (BUF)
    Additional Details:
    Edited trade
    A lot of people in comments said it was originally an over pay, is this better?
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the NYI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the OTT
    2025
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    2026
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$83,500,000$82,609,917$0$0$890,083
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $3,050,000$3,050,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,400,000$2,400,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    RW, C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $800,000$800,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,825,000$2,825,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,550,000$3,550,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $766,667$766,667
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $4,150,000$4,150,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $4,687,500$4,687,500
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0)
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LW
    UFA - 1

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    Aug. 3, 2023 at 12:37 a.m.
    #1
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Yikes....two big overpayments for Carolina and then the Leafs in that Buffalo trade
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 12:48 a.m.
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    Hard pass for buf, Lemieux has no place on the roster
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 1:03 a.m.
    #3
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    Quoting: LottoPlease
    Hard pass for buf, Lemieux has no place on the roster


    If im Buffalo, im taking that and running
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    Aug. 3, 2023 at 1:05 a.m.
    #4
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    Quoting: LottoPlease
    Hard pass for buf, Lemieux has no place on the roster


    What? a first plus for Olofsson? Give me a good reason why they don't take that.
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    Aug. 3, 2023 at 1:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lancebmx
    What? a first plus for Olofsson? Give me a good reason why they don't take that.


    I think they take that and build a statue of Treliving in the middle of Buffalo
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    Aug. 3, 2023 at 6:32 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ennis
    I think they take that and build a statue of Treliving in the middle of Buffalo


    Quoting: Lancebmx
    What? a first plus for Olofsson? Give me a good reason why they don't take that.


    Quoting: Pensfan303
    If im Buffalo, im taking that and running


    Quoting: palhal
    Yikes....two big overpayments for Carolina and then the Leafs in that Buffalo trade


    Olofsson is 25+ goal scorer
    U guys are acting like he’s a 4th liner we should just wanna dump
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 6:43 a.m.
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    The Olofsson trade is more complicated than it needs to be
    U can drop the 3rd & 5th going to the Sabres

    U could take out the 6th & Lemieux part of the deal too,
    or keep it in, whatever
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 7:08 a.m.
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    @Mikael_Smith
    Quoting: palhal
    Yikes....two big overpayments for Carolina and then the Leafs in that Buffalo trade
    Quoting: LottoPlease
    Hard pass for buf, Lemieux has no place on the roster
    Quoting: Pensfan303
    If im Buffalo, im taking that and running
    Quoting: Lancebmx
    What? a first plus for Olofsson? Give me a good reason why they don't take that.
    Quoting: Ennis
    I think they take that and build a statue of Treliving in the middle of Buffalo
    Relax everyone, it really is not that bad of a trade.
    You do know over the last four seasons Boeser has played 583:45 more minutes than Olofsson but has one less goal (80 v Olofsson's 81).
    Two seasons since they both signed new contracts each Boeser goal cost $309,302 while each Olofsson goal cost $197,917.
    Last season Brock played over 60% of the time with one of Miller, Horvat or Petterson as his line mate.
    Last season Victor played about 10% of the time with our top two centers Cozens or Thompson.
    No one would wail nor gnash their teeth if the trade was for Boeser.

    Last season he had more goals than DeBrincat yet he played 483 fewer minutes.
    Finally, only 22 NHL forwards scored at a faster rate than victor's 1.6 goals/60 last year.
    This is not to say Victor is better or even as good as Alex, just making the point that he is a very good sniper.

    Too many Sabre fans try to give him away just as Leaf fans give away Brodie.
    The Leaf fans to make cap space, Sabre fans to make roster space for Kulich, Savoie, Ostlund, Bensen etc.
    Neither fans are looking at the value each bring to the ice.

    On to the trade.
    If John Tavares could make Matt Moulson score 97 goals over a 3 year period, Victor would certainly get over 100.
    It would then be the Leafs "building a statue of Treliving" outside of Scotiabank Arena.

    Keep Lemieux in the trade to balance the roster, he may be useful on the fourth line or in Rochester.
    Drop all of the picks other than the first and increase Buffalo's retention to 50% or $2,375,000 and it should be a fair trade for both parties.
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    Aug. 3, 2023 at 7:42 a.m.
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    Quoting: LottoPlease
    Hard pass for buf, Lemieux has no place on the roster


    What? Just waive him or buy him out
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 7:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: AntiAnalytics
    Olofsson is 25+ goal scorer
    U guys are acting like he’s a 4th liner we should just wanna dump


    When it was crunch time this year, he was a 5th liner
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 7:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    When it was crunch time this year, he was a 5th liner


    Every team in the league should want a “5th liner” who scores 25+ goals
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 8:02 a.m.
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    Quoting: AntiAnalytics
    Every team in the league should want a “5th liner” who scores 25+ goals


    Well we have been trying to trade him for a while so I guess that's not true
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 8:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Well we have been trying to trade him for a while so I guess that's not true


    Speculation
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: AntiAnalytics
    Speculation


    Says the guy speculating every team in the league wants him
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 8:40 a.m.
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    Bruins accept
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 8:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: ncposeidon
    Bruins accept


    Bruins probably don't hesitate on this trade. Boston is cap compliant now though so this is probably closer to what a trade looks like than it did a month ago. Still looks like a bit of an overpay.
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    Aug. 3, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: ncposeidon
    Bruins accept


    Quoting: Crotalus7294
    Bruins probably don't hesitate on this trade. Boston is cap compliant now though so this is probably closer to what a trade looks like than it did a month ago. Still looks like a bit of an overpay.


    Absolute overpay, and I like Forbort and I'm a Bs fan. Don Sweeney accepts, changes his phone number so he can't be tracked, moves into the mountains and retires.
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    Aug. 3, 2023 at 9:42 a.m.
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    Quoting: beantownboy17
    Absolute overpay, and I like Forbort and I'm a Bs fan. Don Sweeney accepts, changes his phone number so he can't be tracked, moves into the mountains and retires.


    I was trying to be kind, forbort is a great defenseman with obvious strengths and clear weaknesses. Bruins likely dont have the capital or desire to resign him as a bottom pairing and there for should look to trade before his contract is up. This puts boston in a weak position to get much higher than a mid to late draft pick or a middle of the road prospect. The trade above gives boston 4x that.
    Aug. 3, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: gretzkyghosts
    Mikael_Smith
    Relax everyone, it really is not that bad of a trade.
    You do know over the last four seasons Boeser has played 583:45 more minutes than Olofsson but has one less goal (80 v Olofsson's 81).
    Two seasons since they both signed new contracts each Boeser goal cost $309,302 while each Olofsson goal cost $197,917.
    Last season Brock played over 60% of the time with one of Miller, Horvat or Petterson as his line mate.
    Last season Victor played about 10% of the time with our top two centers Cozens or Thompson.
    No one would wail nor gnash their teeth if the trade was for Boeser.

    Last season he had more goals than DeBrincat yet he played 483 fewer minutes.
    Finally, only 22 NHL forwards scored at a faster rate than victor's 1.6 goals/60 last year.
    This is not to say Victor is better or even as good as Alex, just making the point that he is a very good sniper.

    Too many Sabre fans try to give him away just as Leaf fans give away Brodie.
    The Leaf fans to make cap space, Sabre fans to make roster space for Kulich, Savoie, Ostlund, Bensen etc.
    Neither fans are looking at the value each bring to the ice.

    On to the trade.
    If John Tavares could make Matt Moulson score 97 goals over a 3 year period, Victor would certainly get over 100.
    It would then be the Leafs "building a statue of Treliving" outside of Scotiabank Arena.

    Keep Lemieux in the trade to balance the roster, he may be useful on the fourth line or in Rochester.
    Drop all of the picks other than the first and increase Buffalo's retention to 50% or $2,375,000 and it should be a fair trade for both parties.


    Olofsson is a fine middle 6 shooter but he's not much else. Bad possession metrics, not very good on the PP (despite supposedly taking a lot of one tees), bad in his own zone. He's very one-dimensional.

    Buffalo is going to opt to keep him because they aren't crunched for cap and they will need to replace some of Quinn's scoring in the top 6 while he's out.
    But if Buffalo was offered a first for him they'd take it and run. He's just not worth that. Maybe a 2nd from a contending team if they are desperate for scoring come the TDL and Buffalo opts to sell
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