i personally think you're overpaying, especially if dumba is a pure rental, you're moving all that for crouse pretty much, swap the first for like a 3rd

Idk, Crouse is one of those guys that seems to have more value on the league than nerds online like us would think.

i'd love crouse. but our defense gets worse here.

I would like crouse just to fill in the body presence that we lost in landy, i think we've addressed the scoring but the body for playoffs could really help out. I also think if dumba was in our system he would improve as well. Minny plays such a boring style of hockey dumba isn't built for it, where i think we'd be downgrading from girard to him, i don't think the gap would be as big as some people think.

I can't see a scenario in which the Avs unload a top four D, especially one that's cost-controlled for years to come like Girard; that contract will be more and more valuable as the cap rises. I can agree that they would benefit from someone like Crouse but robbing from the D in that way to pay the F is probably not much of a gain. They went and got Colton and Wood for "grit"; what they really need are competent 4th-line guys that can play solid defensive minutes.

I'd love to add Crouse, but this has been the problem with getting another high value player. The Avs' most valuable assets are on D, but they're in a situation now in which getting much better on offense means a big hole on D. Especially in the Yotes' case, there isn't much more the Avs can give them that they'd really value. They certainly don't need more draft picks.

I agree that Avs need some solid 4th line guys to come on board, either as FAs or guys coming up through the system. The only other option is to try to moderately improve on someone like LOC if they thought there was a decent player swap out there where they're confident the guy they get back would bring greater production.

I love Crouse but Kovalenko takes that spot already. MacK fought Dumba, so not sure if he's a good fit in the locker room. For the playoffs, I'd prefer more beef. I honestly wouldn't mind Chiarot, especially to give Manson some help in the physicality dept.