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Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 26, 2023
Published: Aug. 28, 2023
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1$800,000
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  1. Andersson, Rasmus ($2,000,000 retained)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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22$83,500,000$83,215,792$850,000$3,875,000$284,208
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
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$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$3,225,000$3M)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$874,125$874,125
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RFA - 1
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
RD
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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Hahahahahaha good one
Aug. 28, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not even close.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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Counter proposal. Zadorov + Zary for RNH (2M retained)
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Counter proposal. Zadorov + Zary for RNH (2M retained)


Zadorov plays 3rd pairing comp. Ceci plays 1st pairing comp. That's not the corollary you seem the think it is.

Zary did not make the NHL roster on a non-playoff team, Broberg posted a 59% xGF% last year in sheltered minutes on a contender. Another poor comparison.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:05 a.m.
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Quoting: CD282
Zadorov plays 3rd pairing comp. Ceci plays 1st pairing comp. That's not the corollary you seem the think it is.

Zary did not make the NHL roster on a non-playoff team, Broberg posted a 59% xGF% last year in sheltered minutes on a contender. Another poor comparison.


Ceci plays 1st pairing because you have an awful defense core lol. And sheltered minutes is a very generous way of saying he was often a healthy scratch lol.

The reality is the Oilers have no realistic pieces that could acquire Andersson from the Flames
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:05 a.m.
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Quoting: CD282
Zadorov plays 3rd pairing comp. Ceci plays 1st pairing comp. That's not the corollary you seem the think it is.

Zary did not make the NHL roster on a non-playoff team, Broberg posted a 59% xGF% last year in sheltered minutes on a contender. Another poor comparison.


Not to mention the $2 mill retained on RNH.................
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.
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I think the salary rentions is a no go for Calgary for that term and #1 Rd sign for 2+ years are hard to pin point a value but if Calgary chooses to rebuild the cost would probably be similar ekholm so a 1st, mid round pick and a b+ prospect
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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Ceci plays 1st pairing because you have an awful defense core lol.

Dumb argument. First off, Ceci has played top-4 on every team he's ever played with. Secondly, he actually plays the position successfully.

Quoting: Erbas1915
And sheltered minutes is a very generous way of saying he was often a healthy scratch lol

As compared with Zary, who couldn't even crack the lineup of a non-playoff team?

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The reality is the Oilers have no realistic pieces that could acquire Andersson from the Flames

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That's the most idiotic comment I've seen here in at least a week.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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Quoting: CD282


tears of joy
That's the most idiotic comment I've seen here in at least a week.


Well if your best offer is Broberg and Ceci, then no you don't have the assets to acquire him. You could offer McDavid or Draisaitl, but I would consider that unrealistic. I know simple logic is difficult for most Oilers fan though, but this isn't exactly rocket science
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Robby35
I think the salary rentions is a no go for Calgary for that term and #1 Rd sign for 2+ years are hard to pin point a value but if Calgary chooses to rebuild the cost would probably be similar ekholm so a 1st, mid round pick and a b+ prospect

Um... Ekholm was traded for Tyson Barrie, a late 1st and a prospect pick at #32 OA. The package above just needs a 2nd round pick to be more or less identical to the Ekholm offer. Broberg >>> Schaefer.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Well if your best offer is Broberg and Ceci, then no you don't have the assets to acquire him. You could offer McDavid or Draisaitl, but I would consider that unrealistic. I know simple logic is difficult for most Oilers fan though, but this isn't exactly rocket science


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You haven't seen my offer.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:27 a.m.
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tears of joy

You haven't seen my offer.


Unless you're offering one of your two stars, then it's a no because nothing else you have is as valuable as Andersson. That was my point
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Erbas1915
Unless you're offering one of your two stars, then it's a no because nothing else you have is as valuable as Andersson. That was my point

Did you think the offer would be 1-for-1? That's not how it works when a contender is picking the bones of a non-playoff team. It would be a package of player + pick + prospect, just like the Ekholm trade.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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Um... Ekholm was traded for Tyson Barrie, a late 1st and a prospect pick at #32 OA. The package above just needs a 2nd round pick to be more or less identical to the Ekholm offer. Broberg >>> Schaefer.


so a first a b+ prospect and a mid round pick. I think ceci is a underrated player but Barrie had more pedigree when it came trade value and I think 1st makes more sense with Calgary's time line. also I'm a Edmonton fan but any deal for andersons would be broberg + Ist + 3rd(or ceci)
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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Did you think the offer would be 1-for-1? That's not how it works when a contender is picking the bones of a non-playoff team. It would be a package of player + pick + prospect, just like the Ekholm trade.


Well Ekholm is 33 and Andersson is 26, not to mention Andersson is currently better and is a right shot which makes him worth more. He's also signed to a huge bargain for 3 more years, so that's a pretty silly comparison. A better comp would be the Seth Jones trade, but even then I'd expect more in return because of how valuable Andersson's contract is
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Erbas1915
Well Ekholm is 33 and Andersson is 26, not to mention Andersson is currently better and is a right shot which makes him worth more. He's also signed to a huge bargain for 3 more years, so that's a pretty silly comparison. A better comp would be the Seth Jones trade, but even then I'd expect more in return because of how valuable Andersson's contract is

My comment was regarding the structure of the trade, I didn't use specific pieces. So the comparison is valid.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
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Zadorov plays 3rd pairing comp. Ceci plays 1st pairing comp. That's not the corollary you seem the think it is.

Zary did not make the NHL roster on a non-playoff team, Broberg posted a 59% xGF% last year in sheltered minutes on a contender. Another poor comparison.


Implying Ceci is a 1st pair defenseman because Edmonton's other options in that position were brutal is a horrible attempt at reasoning. Ceci only averaged 1:20 more ice time than Zadorov. The fact of the matter is that Zadorov is the closest defenseman on Calgary's roster to Ceci's skill level. He pales in comparison to any of Andersson, Hanifin, Weegar, or Tanev.

Broberg is a year older than Zary and was the #6/7 on the team. Zary not making the team was entirely on Sutter. Zary was by far the Flames best prospect at camp last year.
Him opting to play zero offense generating players like Lewis, Ritchie, and Lucic does not undermine Zary as an excellent prospect

Regardless the whole argument is pointless since the original proposal is brutal and my response is clearly satirical
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: CD282
My comment was regarding the structure of the trade, I didn't use specific pieces. So the comparison is valid.


I mean I guess. But the Oilers don't have the high end prospects, quality of picks or young roster players to make the trade work. If Andersson suddenly became available there would be a leaguewide bidding war and the Oilers would be get outbid almost immediately
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
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Weird troll post
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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Zadorov plays 3rd pairing comp. Ceci plays 1st pairing comp. That's not the corollary you seem the think it is. .


Hahahaha this is like saying Ty Rattie is a first liner cause he played on the first line
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Implying Ceci is a 1st pair defenseman because Edmonton's other options in that position were brutal is a horrible attempt at reasoning. Ceci only averaged 1:20 more ice time than Zadorov. The fact of the matter is that Zadorov is the closest defenseman on Calgary's roster to Ceci's skill level. He pales in comparison to any of Andersson, Hanifin, Weegar, or Tanev.

Broberg is a year older than Zary and was the #6/7 on the team. Zary not making the team was entirely on Sutter. Zary was by far the Flames best prospect at camp last year.
Him opting to play zero offense generating players like Lewis, Ritchie, and Lucic does not undermine Zary as an excellent prospect

Regardless the whole argument is pointless since the original proposal is brutal and my response is clearly satirical

Zary is a whole 3 months younger, lol.

And the whole point of a "counter-offer" is to make the OP see how bad their trade offer was by 'putting the shoe on the other foot'. That only works if you're using reasonable comps, otherwise you're only proving that you can be more ridiculously than they. Which completely nullifies the whole point of using the 'counter offer' response.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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Hahahaha this is like saying Ty Rattie is a first liner cause he played on the first line


Except for, you know, absolutely everything.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Erbas1915
Unless you're offering one of your two stars, then it's a no because nothing else you have is as valuable as Andersson. That was my point


U aren’t actually that dumb lol don’t make stupid comments bro think before u speak
Aug. 28, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Hahahaha this is like saying Ty Rattie is a first liner cause he played on the first line


Ceci was in the top 4 on every team he has played for though
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Erbas1915
I mean I guess. But the Oilers don't have the high end prospects, quality of picks or young roster players to make the trade work. If Andersson suddenly became available there would be a leaguewide bidding war and the Oilers would be get outbid almost immediately


Ok this post just proves how bad ur hockey knowledge is oilers have Dylan Holloway Xavier Bourgault Philip Broberg but the oilers have no high end prospects right? Lol most teams that have high end picks aren’t gonna be trading for players like Anderson
 
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