Mediocrity

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Created by: BestGMBenning

Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 19, 2023

Published: Sep. 19, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated

LTIR Enabled: Yes

Season Days: 186

Days Remaining: 185

Season Remaining: 99%

Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining

: $83,206,429

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There’s still some problems with the team that just make me not believe in them anymore. The biggest problem being Binnington. He’s Matt Murray 2.0 except worse and unfortunately the Blues have him for another 4 seasons.
Honestly i think they have a solid forward core and decent blueline. They have the lineup to be competitive but it all falls on Binnington and just goaltending altogether. I feel like the players will bounce back nicely but not goalies. It’ll really kill them down the line.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$83,206,429	$20,000	$0	$293,571

Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Buchnevich, Pavel $5,800,000$5,768,817 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Thomas, Robert $8,125,000$8,081,317 C, RW UFA - 8	Kyrou, Jordan $8,125,000$8,081,317 RW UFA - 8
Saad, Brandon $4,500,000$4,475,806 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,465,054 C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,182,796 RW UFA - 1
Vrána, Jakub $2,625,000$2,610,887 LW UFA - 1	Hayes, Kevin $3,571,429$3,552,228 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Sundqvist, Oskar $775,000$770,833 RW, C UFA - 1
Toropchenko, Alexey $1,250,000$1,243,280 LW, RW RFA - 2	Alexandrov, Nikita $816,667$812,276 C RFA - 1
Blais, Samuel $1,000,000$994,624 LW, RW UFA - 1
Neighbours, Jake $835,833$831,339 LW, RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Krug, Torey $6,500,000$6,465,054 LD NTC UFA - 4	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,465,054 RD NTC UFA - 4	Binnington, Jordan $6,000,000$5,967,742 G NTC UFA - 4
Leddy, Nick $4,000,000$3,978,495 LD NTC UFA - 3	Parayko, Colton $6,500,000$6,465,054 RD NTC UFA - 7	Hofer, Joel $775,000$770,833 G RFA - 2
Scandella, Marco $3,275,000$3,257,392 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Bortuzzo, Robert $950,000$944,892 RD UFA - 1
Tucker, Tyler $800,000$795,699 LD/RD RFA - 2
Rosén, Calle $762,500$758,401 LD UFA - 1

Sep. 19, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.

mokumboi

Joined: Apr. 2019

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Uhh no. You clearly never watch the Blues play. Binnington was damn near the last of their problems last season. If not for him, they might have had a chance to get Bedard.

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Sep. 19, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.

A_K

Lets Go Blues

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Personally I don’t even believe in goaltending anymore, just need a hot hand at the right time. This team’s problem is the gang of 6.5m aav players that aren’t going to get any better and are signed for another eternity. Maybe there will be some improvement on the blue line and special teams thanks to new ACs but I wouldn’t put high expectations on them for a couple years at least - the only thing they got going for them is most of the other central teams are stuck in a similar mediocrity.

Sep. 19, 2023 at 8:36 p.m.

NHLfan10506

Joined: May 2019

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They have a majority of their cap tied to 30+ players signed for 3 years or more…and few high end prospects. I think ‘mediocrity’ would be their enemy. They may be better off in long-run if they tank for a year or two, gets some guys who can help while Thomas and Kyrou are still in their prime. Adding more Hayes, Leddy types is probably not the right recipe.

Sep. 19, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

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I think the Blues have a pretty solid forward group actually but that defense is patchy, if Binnington can get dialed in he's good, will be watching to see how Hofer does this season.

Sep. 20, 2023 at 8:50 a.m.

xercuses

Xercuses

Joined: Jun. 2021

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Goaltending was quite literally the only highlight last year

It’s our defence that all collectively decided to stop playing defense. We need Krug and leddy moved and to bring in the young guys we have to play well

Sep. 20, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.

CannaHawk

Backn 2da leff-JFK

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Quoting: xercuses

Is Krug a dump at this point or is it just a log jam at LD?

Sep. 20, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.

mokumboi

Joined: Apr. 2019

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

The Blues don't tank, man. Leddy was a gruesome mistake in trade and especially re-signing. Hayes is more than fine for what he costs and could easily be moved anyway. The biggest problem last year was they did not play the system. And Leddy. Always Leddy.

Sep. 20, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.

mokumboi

Joined: Apr. 2019

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Quoting: CannaHawk

Is Krug a dump at this point or is it just a log jam at LD?

More than anything he's not the type of LD they need. But yeah, he absolutely needs to bounce back, too.

Sep. 20, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.

NHLfan10506

Joined: May 2019

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Quoting: mokumboi

I am not saying they will tank....I am saying the should tank.

Sep. 20, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.

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mokumboi

Joined: Apr. 2019

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I am not saying they will tank....I am saying the should tank.

No, they shouldn't. Most of what ails them can be corrected. Except Leddy. He should be in a fish tank. Elsewhere. Is that what you meant by tank?

Sep. 20, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.

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xercuses

Xercuses

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Quoting: CannaHawk

Is Krug a dump at this point or is it just a log jam at LD?

Hard to say really, he’s still good and can provide a lot but doesn’t provide what the blues need, I’d say he’s still a postive asset that can get an ok return for a team that needs him

But yes it’s also a log jam

Sep. 20, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.

#12

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: mokumboi

No, they shouldn't. Most of what ails them can be corrected. Except Leddy. He should be in a fish tank. Elsewhere. Is that what you meant by tank?

They have lost Pietrangelo, Tarasenko, Perron, O’Reilly, Barbashev, Schwartz, Dunn, Maroon, Bozak, Steen, Bouwmeester since their cup….their entire blueline is overpaid and 30+….as is Schenn, Hayes, Saad, Binnington. They just finished 15 points out of a wild card and are moving in wrong direction. The prospect pool is mediocre and lacks any top guys.

Not sure there is a team more in need of a tank.

Sep. 20, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.

#13

mokumboi

Joined: Apr. 2019

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

What are you babbling about??? The prospect pool is weak??? No top guys???

This from the guy who imagines Casey and Gritsyuk are blue chippers. Faulk is overpaid? Schenn? The team most in need of a tank??? Good grief. Lots of good teams have bad years. You don't know anywhere near as much about that team as you pretend to. You sound like Dom, to be frank.

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