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Jan. 24 at 2:34 p.m.
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Makes the fitz signing added responsibility interesting wouldn't you say?


The extension itself is probably unrelated (he was likely to be extended either way)…but maybe it explains the timing of the announcement, which seemed a bit weird and out-of-the-blue.

Who knows
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Jan. 24 at 6:43 p.m.
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We have 19 healthy players on roster and no cap space to call anyone up.

Misyul and Dowling sound like they are coming …but will have to make at least one other move.
Jan. 24 at 9:51 p.m.
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We have 19 healthy players on roster and no cap space to call anyone up.

Misyul and Dowling sound like they are coming …but will have to make at least one other move.


So a couple questions-
Do the McLeod and Foote contracts count long term on the cap (into playoffs)? Same with contracts, do they come back to us or is it a done deal. If so, does Dougie become a ltir move?
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Jan. 24 at 11:24 p.m.
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So a couple questions-
Do the McLeod and Foote contracts count long term on the cap (into playoffs)? Same with contracts, do they come back to us or is it a done deal. If so, does Dougie become a ltir move?
Asking my Devs experts Fan and Gibb


Right now, they are on the roster, just not playing (like Hughes or Palat). Everything still counts.

Eventually they will be put into a “non-roster” bucket, which is treated like IR (we gain the roster spot, but cap still counts).

If they are suspended, they go into suspended list (for off-ice infractions) and they won’t collect pay, so won’t count against cap and won’t count against roster limit (but I think still counts against max number of contracts).

If found in violations of SPA rules, it would allow league or team to terminate contract altogether, so won’t count against roster limits, cap or number of contracts.


Right now, we have 19 healthy players on roster and cannot call anyone up (or make trade or waiver claim) until we move someone to LTIR.

There is a chance there was a pre-negotiated deal between league and NHLPA for this situation (not like it came out of blue) that would allow players to be quickly moved into suspension or termination. Hockey Canada still has a blanket ban against the entire 2018 WJC team until there is final resolution (so that includes players like Cale Makar). I would imagine once arrested, the five players will take more of punishment and the league, HC and PA will try to ease the burden on the others. But who knows.
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Jan. 25 at 10:13 a.m.
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We have 19 healthy players on roster and no cap space to call anyone up.

Misyul and Dowling sound like they are coming …but will have to make at least one other move.


These two officially up!
Jan. 25 at 2:21 p.m.
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Nick Desimone claimed off waivers from Calgary

And as Smitty mentioned Dowling and Misyul coming up.

(and we are over cap)
Jan. 25 at 2:22 p.m.
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Am guessing Sigenthaler goes to LTIR later today
Jan. 25 at 2:54 p.m.
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McLeod and Foote have disappeared off Devils team roster on NHL.com
Jan. 25 at 3:15 p.m.
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Am guessing Sigenthaler goes to LTIR later today


What are the rules around moving guys from LTIR back to IR?
Jan. 25 at 3:23 p.m.
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What are the rules around moving guys from LTIR back to IR?


I think once they no longer need LTIR, they automatically go back to IR…not sure if there is an official transaction or not.
Jan. 25 at 3:25 p.m.
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I think once they no longer need LTIR, they automatically go back to IR…not sure if there is an official transaction or not.


Ahh alright. So basically just no accrual for the time being then once we don't need LTIR we start accruing again
Jan. 25 at 3:49 p.m.
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Hughes to IR
Dougie to LTIR
McLeod, Foote to Non-Roster
Jan. 25 at 5:19 p.m.
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There's a couple tweets out there saying stadium series jerseys are delayed for showing bc carter hart is the player they shot modeling them! If so who is the moron who planned that?
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Jan. 25 at 8:13 p.m.
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Tierney is so useless
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Jan. 25 at 8:39 p.m.
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Every time our dmen get control in d-zone…watch the first pass. Say “yahtzee” every time it misses mark.

This is what we need to fix more than anything.
Jan. 25 at 8:47 p.m.
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Every time our dmen get control in d-zone…watch the first pass. Say “yahtzee” every time it misses mark.

This is what we need to fix more than anything.


I’d like a better strategy on the PK and PP. Seems like we give up entries way too easily, and on the other side constantly let the opposing PK get completely set up with every entry
Jan. 25 at 9:01 p.m.
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Every time our dmen get control in d-zone…watch the first pass. Say “yahtzee” every time it misses mark.

This is what we need to fix more than anything.


Also feels like we just throw passes in the general direction of the front of the net without purpose

Count how many times we give up possession just throwing it to the front
Jan. 25 at 9:13 p.m.
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Also feels like we just throw passes in the general direction of the front of the net without purpose

Count how many times we give up possession just throwing it to the front


Often.

Any many of the successful exit passes end up coming from forward-to-forward…or are carry outs.
Jan. 25 at 9:23 p.m.
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Often.

Any many of the successful exit passes end up coming from forward-to-forward…or are carry outs.


I'd like to see the team be more patient in the offensive zone.

Jack, Nico, Bratt and Mcleod were/are fantastic at holding possession, waiting for opportunities to open up, breaking defensive structure, and then making a move/pass when it's open.

I feel like a lot of the other guys get into the zone and are just trying to get it to the middle at all costs, whether it's a devil there, or 3 defenders all in the lane.

Use Luke, use Marino, use Nemec.
Jan. 25 at 9:45 p.m.
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I love letting the PK get completely set up. 8 guys standing at the blueline and forcing us to carry through the most crowded spot on the ice. And even if we take it in none of our guys have their feet moving or any speed
Jan. 25 at 9:57 p.m.
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Stupid ****ing drop pass
Jan. 25 at 10:03 p.m.
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Just giving them free breakouts.
Jan. 25 at 10:11 p.m.
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Fire Lindy tomorrow.

-The power play and PK systems are god awful
-He doesn't know how to utilize his players
-He has weird obsessions with a few garbage players

Every time I watch Luke Hughes have to make that stupid drop pass I cringe.

Jack, Meier, Hughes, Bratt, Mercer, Nico, Luke, Nemec etc can all hold the puck and skate with it.

But no it's stagnant, no movement, garbage. Just throw it in the general area of the net and hope it magically ends up in there.

And even if you don't want to play using movement, you better have a legitimate sniper shot and be using him. But oh wait he sticks the best shot on the team down on the 4th line with AHLers
Jan. 25 at 10:25 p.m.
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Fire Lindy tomorrow


I imagine returning from AS break with new coach is possible. But that’s hard to do…especially at this point. He has lost 5/6 dmen, the star center, the big power forward, lost two more players to what appear to be criminal charges, and has been backed up with no depth…and yet we are somehow still alive.

Also, unless you have a Burnette ready in the wings, you’d probably be talking about two coaching changes. One in season, one in off-season. Not sure Travis Green is that guy (Dineen maybe).

So if it happened, I hope Fitzy has a plan.
Jan. 25 at 11:39 p.m.
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I would take @NHLfan10506 over Lindy Ruff as the Devils head coach
 
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