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Mar. 5 at 5:04 p.m.
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Luke is on the 3rd pairing, Holtz on the 4th line. Don't stress about it. We're not moving Nemec. And if we were, NJD frankly wouldn't be holding him out. Nemec isn't an asset that even meaningfully loses value if he gets injured.


There is no trade worth doing with Nemec in it.

(I am not really stressed about it…just more of a ‘woe is me” comment)

I think Fitzy is playing gamesmanship that is unclear to us now. Hopefully it all works out.
Mar. 5 at 9:06 p.m.
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Jay Leach
Jay Pandolfo


Only concern is no experience as head coach
Leach wants one but is that how we turn the page?
Sully fits like a glove imo
Mar. 5 at 9:11 p.m.
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Only concern is no experience as head coach
Leach wants one but is that how we turn the page?
Sully fits like a glove imo


More experience can often mean more set in their ways, more rigidity, less adaptability, less flexibility.

Wouldn’t sacrifice the latter for the former

(It’s probably Green next up anyway…)
Mar. 5 at 9:13 p.m.
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More experience can often mean more set in their ways, more rigidity, less adaptability, less flexibility.

Wouldn’t sacrifice the latter for the former

(It’s probably Green next up anyway…)


No, I'm not accepting Green as an answer to our problem
Mar. 5 at 9:20 p.m.
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No, I'm not accepting Green as an answer to our problem


He was hired as a back-up coach

If they make playoffs, he likely gets the job
If they come close, he probably gets the job
If they remain same, he’s on shortlist
If they get worse, they look elsewhere

Not saying he is my choice…but he is the incumbent
Mar. 5 at 9:38 p.m.
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Why did we trade for MacDermid?
Mar. 5 at 9:49 p.m.
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Why did we trade for MacDermid?


Next Tues
Mar. 5 at 9:51 p.m.
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He was hired as a back-up coach

If they make playoffs, he likely gets the job. HA!
If they come close, he probably gets the job. HA!
If they remain same, he’s on shortlist UGH!
If they get worse, they look elsewhere YAY!

Not saying he is my choice…but he is the incumbent
Mar. 5 at 10:00 p.m.
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Smitty, you’ve joined team tank?

I want our guys to learn how to fight for the W…fight to end!

Cin-da-rella stor-y, ba-by
[Howard Cosell voice]
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Mar. 5 at 10:11 p.m.
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Watched on Florida broadcast…”paying to watch tap dancing maybe”…”Devils are one-line team”…you’d think Devils were in last place. We are the whipping boys of the league.
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Mar. 5 at 10:29 p.m.
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Random thought of day…adding PK Subban to Devils broadcast

Like him more as commentator than I ver did as player.
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Mar. 5 at 11:03 p.m.
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Smitty, you’ve joined team tank?

I want our guys to learn how to fight for the W…fight to end!

Cin-da-rella stor-y, ba-by
[Howard Cosell voice]


I'm good with the team Fan, management really kicked me in the balls with their comments today. I just watched the part where Fitz said he knew nothing about the team Canada case, bull! He grabbed Nosek and Tierney.
Now the team itself, they are a shell of themselves. Jack got poped by Bennett and coughed puck up for G1. Luke with the outta rink. The terrible passing, lack of effort. Pull the G and 86 throwing pucks in the stands for passes. Unlike anything they've done in 2 yrs.They pushed back physically and had some jam but it's all still off, I can't explain it. I'm holding out hope but the runway keeps shortening. I'll tow the company line, but my optimism is bleak.
LGDs!
Mar. 5 at 11:04 p.m.
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Random thought of day…adding PK Subban to Devils broadcast

Like him more as commentator than I ver did as player.


Prob is hes catching on in tbe *** markets. And he's the anti hero to Mess!
Mar. 6 at 6:00 a.m.
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Smitty, you’ve joined team tank?

I want our guys to learn how to fight for the W…fight to end!

Cin-da-rella stor-y, ba-by
[Howard Cosell voice]

I'm good with the team Fan, management really kicked me in the balls with their comments today. I just watched the part where Fitz said he knew nothing about the team Canada case, bull! He grabbed Nosek and Tierney.
Now the team itself, they are a shell of themselves. Jack got poped by Bennett and coughed puck up for G1. Luke with the outta rink. The terrible passing, lack of effort. Pull the G and 86 throwing pucks in the stands for passes. Unlike anything they've done in 2 yrs.They pushed back physically and had some jam but it's all still off, I can't explain it. I'm holding out hope but the runway keeps shortening. I'll tow the company line, but my optimism is bleak.
LGDs!


Fitzy's media availability, radio hits yesterday where deflating. He seemed like he was at a loss.

The Nemec scratching, whatever message was trying to be sent, was questionable move.

Hopefully, we have found rock bottom
Mar. 6 at 10:31 a.m.
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Our current picks

1st #10
3rd #75
5th #139
5th #154
6th #171

Potential Toffoli landing spots

NYI #16
VGK #20
LAK #22
CAR #24
EDM #26
Mar. 6 at 12:42 p.m.
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Tarasenko got 3rd and 4th....

Probably a big indicator we don't move Toffoli if market is that cheap
Mar. 6 at 12:48 p.m.
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Tarasenko got 3rd and 4th....

Probably a big indicator we don't move Toffoli if market is that cheap


Full NMC tho. I always thought Senko would be like the Kane deal last year whereas Toffoli would be like the Tarasenko/Bertuzzi deals
Mar. 6 at 1:04 p.m.
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Full NMC tho. I always thought Senko would be like the Kane deal last year whereas Toffoli would be like the Tarasenko/Bertuzzi deals


Sounds about right.
Mar. 6 at 1:15 p.m.
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Just checked the tweeters…telling me we are selling Holtz for a back-up goalie and buying Jason Zucker.

(Sigh)

That was a bad idea.
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Mar. 6 at 3:16 p.m.
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Fitzy's media availability, radio hits yesterday where deflating. He seemed like he was at a loss.

The Nemec scratching, whatever message was trying to be sent, was questionable move.

Hopefully, we have found rock bottom


Gotta believe it's terra firma in Newark now!
Greene was his stamp on the team (that's good or bad I guess) but Nemec scratch is odder than some more obvious candidates. Maybe they thought Luke's help on the PP could help overcome the Panther machine. Fitz shouldn't be at a loss, any "hockey mind whose not a fan" (greenest words about us I guess). I'm a moron and I saw it all coming, let's be real!

Now important stuff for us:
Toffoli trade or sign
Min you would accept
Max you would sign for

The other ufas:
I'd move them all and help them get to teams with good chances

What say you experts?

And lastly
Let's go Devs!
Mar. 6 at 3:26 p.m.
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Gotta believe it's terra firma in Newark now!
Greene was his stamp on the team (that's good or bad I guess) but Nemec scratch is odder than some more obvious candidates. Maybe they thought Luke's help on the PP could help overcome the Panther machine. Fitz shouldn't be at a loss, any "hockey mind whose not a fan" (greenest words about us I guess). I'm a moron and I saw it all coming, let's be real!

Now important stuff for us:
Toffoli trade or sign
Min you would accept
Max you would sign for

The other ufas:
I'd move them all and help them get to teams with good chances

What say you experts?

And lastly
Let's go Devs!


Toffoli - move, I think, unless he signs for $5m or two years or less. But saw somewhere that he is expected $6.5m+ on 5 year deal. Get back a piece that we can use the next few years…or a pick we can trade over the summer.

Miller - move him, if we can turn a profit.

Smith - return may not be worth it

Nosek - move him, let Foote/Halonen battle out for his spot.

Any of the other UFAs - move if there are buyers

Holtz - keep him, see what happens under new coaching.
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Mar. 6 at 3:29 p.m.
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Toffoli - move, I think, unless he signs for $5m or two years or less. But saw somewhere that he is expected $6.5m+ on 5 year deal. Get back a piece that we can use the next few years…or a pick we can trade over the summer.

Miller - move him, if we can turn a profit.

Smith - return may not be worth it

Nosek - move him, let Foote/Halonen battle out for his spot.

Any of the other UFAs - move if there are buyers

Holtz - keep him, see what happens under new coaching.


6.5x5 would be a terrible decision
Mar. 6 at 8:30 p.m.
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6.5x5 would be a terrible decision


That would be Palat contract 2.0

#Trade Toffoli
Mar. 6 at 8:37 p.m.
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That would be Palat contract 2.0

#Trade Toffoli


Been saying it
Mar. 6 at 9:22 p.m.
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Just wrote an exam what'd I miss?
 
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