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Created by: Hammerwise

Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 26, 2023

Published: Sep. 27, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

PHI

Carter, Jeff
2025 6th round pick (PIT)
2026 2nd round pick (PIT)
2026 3rd round pick (SJS)
2026 6th round pick (PIT)

PIT

Deslauriers, Nicolas

PHI

Hirvonen, Roni
2024 5th round pick (TOR)
2026 5th round pick (TOR)

TOR

Staal, Marc ($550,000 retained)

PHI

2024 4th round pick (FLA)
2024 5th round pick (PHI)
2025 4th round pick (FLA)
2026 4th round pick (FLA)

FLA

Seeler, Nick
2024 5th round pick (TOR)
2026 3rd round pick (SJS)

PHI

Järventie, Roby
Joseph, Mathieu
2025 2nd round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

If Greig is looking like making the team and not Jarventie. Joseph is a good bottom 6 nhler but OTT need cap and PHI doesn;t need Joseph, not a dump but not market value

OTT

2024 1st round pick (FLA)

Additional Details:

2024 1st is better than a 2025 2nd

Buyouts

Retained Salary Transactions

Kevin Hayes: $3,571,428 (50%)
Marc Staal: $550,000 (50%)

Buried

Cal Petersen: $3,850,000 ($5,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$79,222,928	$1,187,500	$32,500	$4,277,072

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000$7,750,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Frost, Morgan $2,100,000$2,100,000 C RFA - 2	Tippett, Owen $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Cates, Noah $2,625,000$2,625,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Foerster, Tyson $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 2
Joseph, Mathieu $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1	Hathaway, Garnet $2,375,000$2,375,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Poehling, Ryan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, LW UFA - 1		Allison, Wade $785,000$785,000 RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	York, Cam $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 1
Andrae, Emil $903,333$903,333 ($32,500$32K) LD RFA - 3	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000$5,100,000 RD UFA - 4	Sandström, Felix $775,000$775,000 G UFA - 1
Walker, Sean $2,650,000$2,650,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Attard, Ronnie $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 2
Zamula, Yegor $775,000$775,000 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 4

Taxi Squad
Desnoyers, Elliot $825,000$825,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($37,500$38K) C, LW RFA - 2
Brink, Bobby $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($425,000$425K) RW RFA - 1
Hirvonen, Roni $856,667$856,667 ($0$0$0$0) LW RFA - 2
Järventie, Roby $894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0) LW RFA - 2
Grans, Helge $847,500$847,500 ($0$0$0$0) ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 2
Ginning, Adam $883,750$883,750 ($0$0$0$0) LD RFA - 1
Ersson, Samuel $859,167$859,167 ($0$0$0$0) ($32,500$32K) G RFA - 1

Sep. 27, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.

Moss_Bucket

See you space cowboy

Joined: May 2023

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Why would the Flyers give up a 1st to take Joseph? That doesn't make sense.

Sep. 27, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.

HockeyBoy87

Lifelong Pens Fan

Joined: Jul. 2023

Posts: 407

Likes: 215

Pens decline and Carter blocks that trade

Sep. 27, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.

Hammerwise

Thread Starter

Joined: Aug. 2018

Posts: 6,335

Likes: 2,234

Quoting: Moss_Bucket

Why would the Flyers give up a 1st to take Joseph? That doesn't make sense.

a 2nd for 1st and Jarventie is why

Sep. 27, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.

Hammerwise

Thread Starter

Joined: Aug. 2018

Posts: 6,335

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Quoting: HockeyBoy87

Pens decline and Carter blocks that trade

Maybe, but maybe Briere talks carter into a retirement tour on a team where he'll play

Sep. 27, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.

NDoody

Joined: Aug. 2019

Posts: 1,668

Likes: 772

Briere wants a 1st, or prospect that is a first. the ask has been Boucher.

I highly doubt PHI will take this trade.

Sep. 27, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

Posts: 10,506

Likes: 3,721

Edited Sep. 27, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.

Ahhhh... Seriously I understand the "fun" in making proposals but I guess I am boring. Upgrading a 2nd to 1st is nice but I don't want to trade Jarventie and Joseph

I am going through camp with Pinto left unsigned (unless I finally convince his stupid dumb agent to sign a cheap 1 year deal, because he'd make more in the 2 years in my scenario than if he gets 2.5 x 2 now)

I wait to see my own team injury situation and other teams as well. I try to acquire an LTIR contract if not

Worst case scenario, if the situation is not resolved this way, I trade either Kubalik or Brannstrom for a pick and call it a day

Quoting: Moss_Bucket

Why would the Flyers give up a 1st to take Joseph? That doesn't make sense.

https://sw-ke.facebook.com/OSNL.SensArmy/videos/roby-j%C3%A4rventie-scored-his-1st-ahl-goal-last-night-with-belleville-to-help-them-w/289313296184047/

Sep. 27, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.

Moss_Bucket

See you space cowboy

Joined: May 2023

Posts: 2,066

Likes: 1,155

Quoting: Xspyrit

Fair but I don't think a 1st would be offered by the Flyers at this point. I could see a 2nd though.

Sep. 27, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.

Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

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Quoting: Moss_Bucket

Fair but I don't think a 1st would be offered by the Flyers at this point. I could see a 2nd though.

So that would mean Jarventie + Joseph for a 2nd?

Damn I already dislike Dorion's work so much... Where will that stops?

Funny thing is that GMDGDBD poster would decline and laugh at it too

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Sep. 27, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.

Moss_Bucket

See you space cowboy

Joined: May 2023

Posts: 2,066

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Quoting: Xspyrit

So that would mean Jarventie + Joseph for a 2nd?

Damn I already dislike Dorion's work so much... Where will that stops?

You could get a 1st possibly. I'm just not sure the Flyers want to move 1sts. I doubt Dorion would part with Jarventie though.

Sep. 27, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.

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Xspyrit

Joined: Jul. 2016

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Quoting: Moss_Bucket

You could get a 1st possibly. I'm just not sure the Flyers want to move 1sts. I doubt Dorion would part with Jarventie though.

Yeah he turned 21 last month and looks better and better each time. He has a tantalizing skillset, you just don't trade that

And yeah. Flyers shouldn't move any picks, unless it's a pick to acquire Kubalik (for ex) and sell him higher at the deadline

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Sep. 27, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.

#11

TOR_MTL

Peace between TORMTL

Joined: Sep. 2023

Posts: 16

Likes: 6

We have barely any picks left. We aren't giving that to get a washed veteran, he won't help make a playoff run

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