Gone Pinto Gone

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Created by: AFox23

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 10, 2023

Published: Oct. 10, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Tyler Myers at 25% is $1.5m AAV and only $250,000 in real salary (his bonus has been paid). Perfect for Ottawa.

Free Agent Signings

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Myers, Tyler		1	$1,500,000

Trades

OTT

VAN

Joseph, Mathieu
Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

Pinto signs $3m contract

OTT

Extra $1.5 million retention on Tyler Myers

DET

2024 4th round pick (OTT)

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $750,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$80,737,380	$0	$2,700,000	$2,762,620

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Stützle, Tim $8,350,000$8,350,000 C UFA - 8	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2
Höglander, Nils $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 7	Tarasenko, Vladimir $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1	Greig, Ridly $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 2	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Zub, Artem $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Korpisalo, Joonas $4,000,000$4,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Hamonic, Travis $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1	Myers, Tyler $1,500,000$1,500,000

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Brännström, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1		Myers, Tyler $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Chartier, Rourke $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1

Oct. 10, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.

csick

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Not a chance ottawa considers this in this universe

Oct. 10, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.

AFox23

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Quoting: csick

Not a chance ottawa considers this in this universe

I think they would I doubt vancouver would give up podkolzin so easily.. ottawa probably has to add a pick.

Oct. 10, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.

csick

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Quoting: AFox23

I think they would I doubt vancouver would give up podkolzin so easily.. ottawa probably has to add a pick.

Lol keep trolling. Podkolzin doesn’t come close to matching pinto. Pinto is a centre , more proven . Podkolzin has proven nothing so far except that he’s a bust

Oct. 10, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.

csick

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Quoting: AFox23

I think they would I doubt vancouver would give up podkolzin so easily.. ottawa probably has to add a pick.

Lol keep trolling. Podkolzin doesn’t come close to matching pinto. Pinto is a centre , more proven . Podkolzin has proven nothing so far except that he’s a bust

Oct. 10, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.

AFox23

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Pinto is younger and Podkolzin is two-way player. And Sens are getting Hoglander and RD at discount.

Oct. 10, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.

Billy12Bob

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Detroit is not using up a retention slot when they need them for their own trades.

Oct. 10, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.

Shaquille_Oatmeal

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Quoting: csick

Lol keep trolling. Podkolzin doesn’t come close to matching pinto. Pinto is a centre , more proven . Podkolzin has proven nothing so far except that he’s a bust

Please stop being so biased😂 Pinto was better last season, but how can you say that Podkolzin is a bust when Pinto and Podkolzin has almost the same career high in points?

Pinto 35p best season.
Podkolzin 26p best season (Podkolzin is a also younger).

Oct. 10, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.

AFox23

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Quoting: Shaquille_Oatmeal

Podkolzin will be the more valuable player over long-run, even if he is capped at 50-60 points or so. Good two-way, smart player.

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Oct. 10, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.

csick

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Quoting: AFox23

Podkolzin will be the more valuable player over long-run, even if he is capped at 50-60 points or so. Good two-way, smart player.

Pinto will be a 50-60pt 2 way centre . Much better. Pinto has never played in the AHL. Podkolzin can’t crack a lineup

Oct. 10, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.

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Quoting: csick

Pinto will be a 50-60pt 2 way centre . Much better. Pinto has never played in the AHL. Podkolzin can’t crack a lineup

Not on single vote for calder trophy. Not even a single fifth place vote.

JT Compher 2.0 is the upside

Oct. 10, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.

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Quoting: AFox23

Not on single vote for calder trophy. Not even a single fifth place vote.

JT Compher 2.0 is the upside

Lol no chance. The upside is Brock Nelson/ prime Michael Backlund

Oct. 10, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Lol no chance. The upside is Brock Nelson/ prime Michael Backlund

Those are two very different players

Oct. 10, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.

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Quoting: AFox23

Those are two very different players

Well somewhere in between

Oct. 10, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Well somewhere in between

So, JT Compher then

Oct. 10, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.

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Quoting: AFox23

So, JT Compher then

Compher sucks. He’s a 3rd liner who had a career year at age 28

Oct. 10, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.

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The ONLY reason why Ottawa would trade Joseph is to create cap space to sign Pinto... not to trade both in the same trade. This still isn't understood?

Another external fan doing an ACGM for a team he doesn't know enough about...

Höglander + Podkolzin is not a bad proposal for Pinto but doubtful the Sens would trade him this way. Since they wouldn't for DeBrincat or Chychrun months ago, I doubt it changed much since

Joseph >>> Myers so it makes it even less interesting

Quoting: AFox23

Not on single vote for calder trophy. Not even a single fifth place vote.

JT Compher 2.0 is the upside

Pinto was coming from a missed season and placed in a situation he was not ready for

I see Pinto becoming a Danault level type player, stylistically more like a David Backes minus the physical play

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