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If there is one team that can trade elite talent for secondary scoring

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 20, 2023
Published: Oct. 20, 2023
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I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but the Oilers need more balance in their lineup. If you look at their early returns it's the same old story: after McD, LD, RNH, Hyman and Beaulieu, the rest of the team is like an anchor around their necks.

I really think they need to sacrifice one of their big 3 for a better balance of secondary scoring and defense, because just like the Leafs, this will never work in the playoffs.
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MTL
  1. Draisaitl, Leon
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Impact player that can help the Habs as long as they can resign him (assumes he's signed long term for 12M per)
EDM
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$78,619,583$1,170,000$3,775,000$4,880,417
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
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$812,500$812,500
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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Oct. 20, 2023 at 8:42 a.m.
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Even if I take your premise as worth considering, it would take a whole lot more than that to get Drai. Would start with 1 of Suzuki or Reinbacher, the '24 1st, and a couple other roster players (which would vary dependent upon which of the first two was chosen). On the whole, though, MTL wouldn't be the team to trade with if EDM wanted to make such a trade.
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Oct. 20, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.
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You think this offer gets you Draistaitl?
Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:00 a.m.
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This is like half of what Drai takes. Throw in Reinbacher and Slaf
Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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Why did you have to mention the Leafs?

Plus, the Leafs are at least better in the sense that they don't sign balloon contracts to anyone with a pulse
Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:10 a.m.
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needing to add significantly to the trade without question, but also Draisaitl has been underpaid for years doubt he signs for less than 13.5-14.

For the package I would say adding slaf harris and another 1st would maybe make the oilers pause to think about it before they declined it.
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Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.
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Sure, EDM should definitely trade a 50 goal, 120 point player making way less than he should for peanuts cause you simply can't win with those types of guys.

You say EDM should sacrifice one of their big three for a better balance of scoring, but you didn't offer them anything that resembles "scoring balance". The 1st two drafts away is hilarious too.

Hope this is satire, or some sort of "funny" response to a ridiculous Habs thread.
Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:49 a.m.
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Lots of crazy here. A player like Drai would only be moved for a tier A all-star same age or future all star not younger than 22. Pasta, Rantanen, Fox, Dahlin, Petterson...
No devloping team can afford to throw 3+ prospects/ELCs/Pix for one guy. Even if it is a top5 player in the league.
Lol some of you guys expect the bell center to be included in this trade 🤣
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Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Why did you have to mention the Leafs?

Plus, the Leafs are at least better in the sense that they don't sign balloon contracts to anyone with a pulse


FWIW - I meant before the additions this offseason. I think the Leafs will do it this year!
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
Even if I take your premise as worth considering, it would take a whole lot more than that to get Drai. Would start with 1 of Suzuki or Reinbacher, the '24 1st, and a couple other roster players (which would vary dependent upon which of the first two was chosen). On the whole, though, MTL wouldn't be the team to trade with if EDM wanted to make such a trade.


I hear you on the fact that MTL is maybe not the ideal partner. MTL DOES have young (cost controlled) assets who will be under team control for a long time, so in that sense they are maybe a fit. They also MIGHT have the desire to do something like this in the offseason. I hear you about the value maybe being off. I included Newhook as he's our top scorer right now, Monahan because he's cost controlled for what he brings, and Guhle because he's awesome. But whatever the mix of players, I think there are player in MTL who are cost-effective and can help the Oilers get over the hump.
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
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Quoting: arab05
You think this offer gets you Draistaitl?


Probably not, but it's a discussion thread. The goal would be: "How do you turn Draisaitl into secondary pieces that give the Oilers a more balanced lineup that can win more games especially in the playoffs?"
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:29 a.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
FWIW - I meant before the additions this offseason. I think the Leafs will do it this year!


Fair...
but something's got to give for this team rn
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
needing to add significantly to the trade without question, but also Draisaitl has been underpaid for years doubt he signs for less than 13.5-14.

For the package I would say adding slaf harris and another 1st would maybe make the oilers pause to think about it before they declined it.


OK. We need to add. I guess I am making the point that rather than have 3 X 100 point players a team is better off with 2 X 100 point players and a few other 20-25 goal scorers who can actually play defence.
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Ritzy
Sure, EDM should definitely trade a 50 goal, 120 point player making way less than he should for peanuts cause you simply can't win with those types of guys.

You say EDM should sacrifice one of their big three for a better balance of scoring, but you didn't offer them anything that resembles "scoring balance". The 1st two drafts away is hilarious too.

Hope this is satire, or some sort of "funny" response to a ridiculous Habs thread.


Nope it was serious. But I take your meaning that the value is not enough. As a discussion, regardless of the value and assuming it's another trade partner not the Habs, do you agree with the premise that an overpowered top 6 without much invested in defense and bottom 6 players cannot win in the playoffs?
Oct. 20, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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Probably not, but it's a discussion thread. The goal would be: "How do you turn Draisaitl into secondary pieces that give the Oilers a more balanced lineup that can win more games especially in the playoffs?"


Well why not try and make the trade fair at least?
 
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