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Hanifin

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2024-25 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 1, 2023
Published: Nov. 1, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
NJD need their even strength mojo back.

With loss of Severson and Graves, we are starting fewer rushes. Build the back-end to improve d-zone exits, the transition game will return, scoring will rise.

(I don't know what the 2024 price would be...maybe another piece realistically)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$6,750,000
2$2,500,000
3$1,750,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,250,000
Trades
NJD
    Hanifin
    CGY
    1. Cheslock, Chase [Reserve List]
    2. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
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    23$87,500,000$88,851,397$1,538,897$5,950,000-$1,351,397
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    $8,800,000$8,800,000
    LW, RW
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    UFA - 6
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
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    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    C
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    UFA - 3
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
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    $3,150,000$3,150,000
    C, LW
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    UFA - 2
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LD
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    UFA - 4
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    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
    LD/RD
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    $4,400,000$4,400,000
    RD
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    UFA - 3
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    G
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    $918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$3,250,000$3M)
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    $800,000$800,000
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
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    $836,667$836,667 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
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    $867,500$867,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
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    Nov. 1, 2023 at 7:17 p.m.
    #1
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    What's the plan after this tho?

    Luke and Holtz need contracts.

    Probably paying to dump palat, might need to move marino. Losing toffoli for free
    In this case we'd probably have to either bridge mercer or convince him to sign cheaper.

    Long term has us down a 1st at least, (palat+marino cancel out), and the team probably worse than
    Hughes Meier Toffoli
    Nico Bratt Holtz
    Mercer Haula Palat
    Mcleod ____ ______
    Hughes Marino
    Siegs Hamilton
    Bahl Nemec
    Nov. 1, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    What's the plan after this tho?

    Luke and Holtz need contracts.

    Probably paying to dump palat, might need to move marino. Losing toffoli for free
    In this case we'd probably have to either bridge mercer or convince him to sign cheaper.

    Long term has us down a 1st at least, (palat+marino cancel out), and the team probably worse than
    Hughes Meier Toffoli
    Nico Bratt Holtz
    Mercer Haula Palat
    Mcleod ____ ______
    Hughes Marino
    Siegs Hamilton
    Bahl Nemec


    I don’t think we have dire cap constraints. Would be able solve if ran into trouble as there is little dead money on ledger.
    Nov. 1, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.
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    They need physical, hitters, Tanev or Zadorov would be better. hanifin good offensive but Sus defense. you just want him cuz he butt buddies with Fitzy. i want Size,physical on the back end.
    Nov. 1, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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    Edited Nov. 1, 2023 at 8:13 p.m.
    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    I don’t think we have dire cap constraints. Would be able solve if ran into trouble as there is little dead money on ledger.


    In my mind it would end up being
    Bahl+Marino vs Hanafin+Casey.

    We'd trade Bahl+Marino and that would approximately cover the trade cost of hanafin.

    Pretty even tbh.
    This year:
    Hanafin-Hughes
    Bahl-Marino
    vs
    Bahl-Marino
    Hughes-Other rental

    next:
    Hanafin-Hughes
    Bahl-Nemec
    vs
    Hughes-Marino
    Bahl-Nemec
    2 years
    Hughes-Nemec
    Hanafin-Casey
    vs
    Hughes-Nemec
    Bahl-Marino

    If hanafin would agree to sign at 6 mill or something a tiny bit under i'd do it I think. Same logic I had with bringing severson back . If he's willing to take a discount I'll do it.

    Also I'm not sure I'd give Mercer that contract at this point.
    That's in the Hagel/Terry/Boldy area and I don't think mercer is quite that. Especially since I think we'd have 4 full years of RFA control.

    If we use the Chytil deal as a ballpark there that's 17.75 over 4. Mercer here is 47.25 over 7. I don't think Mercer becomes a 10 mill AAV guy over the next 4 years.
    Nov. 1, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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    Nov. 1, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: TyeZerker
    They need physical, hitters, Tanev or Zadorov would be better. hanifin good offensive but Sus defense. you just want him cuz he butt buddies with Fitzy. i want Size,physical on the back end.


    Hitters is not the right remedy at all. Unless you want to play with puck less (which is not how team has been set up). Our strength is our transition game, but we have been rather pedestrian at even strength this year as d-zone exit success rate has dropped considerably. Adding a dman who can get puck in hands if Hughes, Bratt, Nico.
    Nov. 1, 2023 at 9:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: dgibb10
    In my mind it would end up being
    Bahl+Marino vs Hanafin+Casey.

    We'd trade Bahl+Marino and that would approximately cover the trade cost of hanafin.

    Pretty even tbh.
    This year:
    Hanafin-Hughes
    Bahl-Marino
    vs
    Bahl-Marino
    Hughes-Other rental

    next:
    Hanafin-Hughes
    Bahl-Nemec
    vs
    Hughes-Marino
    Bahl-Nemec
    2 years
    Hughes-Nemec
    Hanafin-Casey
    vs
    Hughes-Nemec
    Bahl-Marino

    If hanafin would agree to sign at 6 mill or something a tiny bit under i'd do it I think. Same logic I had with bringing severson back . If he's willing to take a discount I'll do it.

    Also I'm not sure I'd give Mercer that contract at this point.
    That's in the Hagel/Terry/Boldy area and I don't think mercer is quite that. Especially since I think we'd have 4 full years of RFA control.

    If we use the Chytil deal as a ballpark there that's 17.75 over 4. Mercer here is 47.25 over 7. I don't think Mercer becomes a 10 mill AAV guy over the next 4 years.


    I don’t think we would have to cut two dmen to fit one.

    Siegs - Ham
    Luke - Marino
    Hanifin - Nemec
    Bahl

    Is a playoff caliber blueline. If we need a to move a winger to achieve it, so be it. Can always find wingers.
    Nov. 1, 2023 at 10:43 p.m.
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    I don’t think we would have to cut two dmen to fit one.

    Siegs - Ham
    Luke - Marino
    Hanifin - Nemec
    Bahl

    Is a playoff caliber blueline. If we need a to move a winger to achieve it, so be it. Can always find wingers.


    based on what you have here that leaves us 12.85 mill (90.5 mill cap) to pay Bahl, Luke, Holtz, a goalie (at the very least we'll need a 1B/quality backup), and 3 depth forwards+whatever overages Luke/Nemec/Holtz incur

    At the very least that's 3 mill for the 3 depth guys+overages (minus 800k for every player we go short)
    so 9 mill for Bahl Luke Holtz and a goalie

    Holtz is 3+ on a bridge
    Bahl is 2+
    Luke is 8+ long term
    any decent goalie is 2-3+

    You can:
    Trade palat and bahl giving up another 1st in addition to what we paid for hanafin.
    Sign Luke to a bridge deal, and go dirt cheap at goalie/trade bahl or holtz
    or trade marino and bahl for actual assets and let casey play 3RD

    I'd rather not pay mercer that much in all honesty. He appears to potentially be a winger in our system and we're paying him like a top line winger/2C despite having I think 4 years of RFA control
    Nov. 2, 2023 at 5:36 a.m.
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    Edited Nov. 2, 2023 at 6:34 a.m.
    I wouldn't touch that Hanifin extension with a ten-foot pole. That's just asking for trouble.
    Not too against the idea of bringing Hanifin in purely as a rental piece (but even then I'd rather keep the 1st!).

    Also, I wouldn't worry about the strength of the Devils D corps for next season.
    Luke and Bahl will have developed even further and Nemec should most definitely be a significant upgrade over Smith / Miller.
    And with Vilén and Hatakka coming along very nicely I see no need whatsoever to bring in a defenseman from outside the organization onto the roster.
     
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