Justin Faulk has negative trade value

Hahaha what???

Haha oh no is this news to you? His underlying metrics are bad. I don't think you'll find a team that is looking to take on 4 yrs of him a 6.5. If you could get rid of him for nothing thatd be a big win.

Heh. You should try watching hockey. It's fun.

I watch my team. And its pretty rare that the data get it wrong I have to say. But that doesn't dissuade every fan thinking the player they're trading is far more valuable than they actually are.

Hahahaha! Dom's model is NOT data. It's entirely subjective, entirely based on a highly flawed on-ice stat (not individual). Just because that clown acts like it's gospel does not make it so. Meanwhile, Faulk is coming off a career high in points...

And let's be very clear: you somehow imagine he's worth absolutely nothing, if not negative value. Thats what I'm debating against. But sure, pretend I'm saying he's worth a ton.

Ok you might have to unpack how his model is "based entirely on highly flawed on-ice stats" that seems like hyperbole. It's fun to say that but please explain yourself. I don't think it is Gospel by any means. It's just another tool, another data set to use.

The case against his value is he makes 6.5 mil for 4 more yrs and is the wrong side of 30. And he doesn't defend well. He may have marginal value he may have none. Just depends on timing and who needs what.

Take for instance Sean Durzi. He's 24, makes 1.7 mil, and does basically everything Faulk can do and he cost a 2nd.

Hahaha what??? Durzi defends well, but Faulk doesn't? Like I said, you should watch hockey instead of reading analytics.

And yes, xG is a deeply flawed stat that isn't even an individual stat. Obviously.

I said Durzi does what Faulk does, while being far younger and far cheaper. And he returned a 2nd. Did you have anything to say to that? If you can articulate yourself im happy to have a convo.

Why do you say all this data is so useless? Your point is what Krug isn't a good player and is dragging him down? Rest of the team is awful?

Are you equally shocked every team employs analytics teams?

Mokumboi will choose ignore objective statistics for players and instead swear that his singular eye test holds more merit. A common theme with him.

Doms model is not subjective at all.... Athletic combines stats like xG, toi relative to qot/qoc, and then funnels those stats into percentiles based on players in similar positions.

It'd be much easier if you said you had no idea what you're talking about lmao.

Haha Ok thank you. I was trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and let him explain himself but I had a feeling this might be the case.