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Nov. 5, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
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Danny B is here
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Calgary and San Jose decline
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.
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Leafs decline the flames for the 1001st time
Nov. 5, 2023 at 5:51 p.m.
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It's alot of fun speculating about Brad making a trade with his former team but looking at the mess he left Calgary in, Conroy has no motivation to be fair with Brad.

He probably just hangs up the phone unless Nylanders on the table. There's 30 other teams we can get better deals from, Brad has to pay a "you forked us" tax.
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 5:54 p.m.
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It's alot of fun speculating about Brad making a trade with his former team but looking at the mess he left Calgary in, Conroy has no motivation to be fair with Brad.

He probably just hangs up the phone unless Nylanders on the table. There's 30 other teams we can get better deals from, Brad has to pay a "you forked us" tax.

100% Agreed. I’m sure they’re still friends, but when it comes to making a deal, Conroy should be extremely cautious with Brad and make him pay more

This deal doesn’t work for the Flames and I don’t want him, but I wonder if CGY is on Brodie No Trade List
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 6:01 p.m.
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none of that happens
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
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100% Agreed. I’m sure they’re still friends, but when it comes to making a deal, Conroy should be extremely cautious with Brad and make him pay more

This deal doesn’t work for the Flames and I don’t want him, but I wonder if CGY is on Brodie No Trade List


I gotta assume Brodie doesn't want to come back. I assume most players don't want to come here and to have any chance of attracting talent, Huberdeau and Kadri are going to have to start looking like they're good to play with. Nobodies getting cookies and padding their stats right now.
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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I gotta assume Brodie doesn't want to come back. I assume most players don't want to come here and to have any chance of attracting talent, Huberdeau and Kadri are going to have to start looking like they're good to play with. Nobodies getting cookies and padding their stats right now.

We should be the ones acquiring Duclair and pushing for Reinhart. Maybe that would get Huberdeau back. I mean we’re too heavily invested in him to not invest more to help him out

Put Coleman & Mangiapane with Kadri and I think he’ll be okay. Otherwise Zary & Duehr are the only two other players I’ve seen do well with him at Centre, so one of them + Coleman. Failing that, move him to LW or RW like we both agree might work out and be better for him

We need to move on from anybody not wanting to be here, including Lindholm, Hanifin and/or Backlund if he’s still unsure. New Blood & Energy is what this Team really needs the most of.
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
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It's alot of fun speculating about Brad making a trade with his former team but looking at the mess he left Calgary in, Conroy has no motivation to be fair with Brad.

He probably just hangs up the phone unless Nylanders on the table. There's 30 other teams we can get better deals from, Brad has to pay a "you forked us" tax.


Genuine question

A 1st + 3rd & Villeneuve for Tanev 50% do you deny it?
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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Genuine question

A 1st + 3rd & Villeneuve for Tanev 50% do you deny it?


Yes I would take it, if it's the best I can get, it's good value. I would take less value for more guaranteed scoring.
Nov. 5, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.
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Yes, if it's the best I can get, it's good value. I would take less value for more guaranteed scoring.


So you’d accept that or would you decline it?, cause i’m confused how you responded to it
Nov. 5, 2023 at 7:26 p.m.
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So you’d accept that or would you decline it?, cause i’m confused how you responded to it


I saw that and edited it. I would take it.
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.
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I saw that and edited it. I would take it.


Thank you KingRnR said i’d have to include Liljegren & Jarnkrok then tried to explain how Tanev has more value then Lilly, even though one is 24 about to hit is prime & one is 34 still good but his best days are likely behind him, Anyway Thank You for answering my question & have lovely rest of your evening
Nov. 5, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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I saw that and edited it. I would take it.

Whoa, wait a second here. Just for the record, @TOR is not being honest about or factually representing what I said

I said TOR’s 2024-1st + 2025-3rd wouldn’t be enough for Tanev 50% retained because it will easily be beat given the amount of demand there will be for his services. They also wanted AJ Greer for a couple throw-in AHL nobodies

I said Liljegren is a piece of interest that we’d like as part of the deal, but that we would need more than Liljegren now, because Liljegren is injured and therefore would not be a usable replacement player and would need a pick to turn around and acquire a replacement for Tanev

Tanev is obviously the far better D-Man than Liljegren right now, but their value has to be pretty similar given Liljegren’s age and RFA status.

Anyways, feel free to check the thread out for yourself and you decide, but I don’t appreciate what TOR is trying to do here and I’m certain we’ll get a much better offer than the ones TOR Fans are trying to ram down our throats daily and just want us to accept on here:

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/771719?post_id=4481588
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 9:59 p.m.
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Genuine question

A 1st + 3rd & Villeneuve for Tanev 50% do you deny it?


That probably gets it done.
Nov. 5, 2023 at 10:01 p.m.
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Thank you KingRnR said i’d have to include Liljegren & Jarnkrok then tried to explain how Tanev has more value then Lilly, even though one is 24 about to hit is prime & one is 34 still good but his best days are likely behind him, Anyway Thank You for answering my question & have lovely rest of your evening


You're misrepresenting what @KingofRNR actually said. Tanev does have more value than Lily.
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Nov. 5, 2023 at 10:01 p.m.
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That probably gets it done.

That offer will get beat elsewhere. It’s Toronto = Late Picks
Nov. 5, 2023 at 11:31 p.m.
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Whoa, wait a second here. Just for the record, TOR is not being honest about or factually representing what I said

I said TOR’s 2024-1st + 2025-3rd wouldn’t be enough for Tanev 50% retained because it will easily be beat given the amount of demand there will be for his services. They also wanted AJ Greer for a couple throw-in AHL nobodies

I said Liljegren is a piece of interest that we’d like as part of the deal, but that we would need more than Liljegren now, because Liljegren is injured and therefore would not be a usable replacement player and would need a pick to turn around and acquire a replacement for Tanev

Tanev is obviously the far better D-Man than Liljegren right now, but their value has to be pretty similar given Liljegren’s age and RFA status.

Anyways, feel free to check the thread out for yourself and you decide, but I don’t appreciate what TOR is trying to do here and I’m certain we’ll get a much better offer than the ones TOR Fans are trying to ram down our throats daily and just want us to accept on here:

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/771719?post_id=4481588


Ahhh fanaticism.
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 3:53 a.m.
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Ahhh fanaticism.


The concept that a 24yr old RFA with team control who was having A very good season has less value then a 34 yr old UFA is laughable, he has a high ankle sprain not broken ankle, the chances of him getting to full form is high

Also Greer is 800k 3-4 liner, Leafs can call up Bobby McMann & get the same production, I just like Greers play style
Nov. 6, 2023 at 3:58 a.m.
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That offer will get beat elsewhere. It’s Toronto = Late Picks


Anybody who gets Tanev is giving you Late picks, isn’t that the point of acquiring him, to have a better record m
Nov. 6, 2023 at 4:09 a.m.
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You're misrepresenting what KingofRNR actually said. Tanev does have more value than Lily.


Telling me I need to give up 5 assets for Tanev & Greer one of them being a 24yr old RFA making less than 2.5 who was just playing Top 4 minutes a week ago & looking fantastic in them
Nov. 6, 2023 at 4:28 a.m.
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The concept that a 24yr old RFA with team control who was having A very good season has less value then a 34 yr old UFA is laughable, he has a high ankle sprain not broken ankle, the chances of him getting to full form is high

Also Greer is 800k 3-4 liner, Leafs can call up Bobby McMann & get the same production, I just like Greers play style


Very good season? What as your 3rd pair PK specialist? I listen to Kyper, Bourne and Steve Dangle ripping that dude apart every chance they get. I know with certainty, when the pressures on and you need him to make a safe play up the boards, he will freeze like a deer in headlights and throw a pizza up the middle of the ice and cost you the game.

Either you're delusional or you're trying to sell a bill of goods and I can tell the difference between piss and rain.

I'll give you Dube for Tavares, he's cheaper and under RFA control, you should jump at that by your logic.
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 8:11 a.m.
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I'll give you Dube for Tavares, he's cheaper and under RFA control, you should jump at that by your logic.


Make it for Nylander since he's UFA like Tanev. smile
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 9:12 a.m.
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Very good season? What as your 3rd pair PK specialist? I listen to Kyper, Bourne and Steve Dangle ripping that dude apart every chance they get. I know with certainty, when the pressures on and you need him to make a safe play up the boards, he will freeze like a deer in headlights and throw a pizza up the middle of the ice and cost you the game.

Either you're delusional or you're trying to sell a bill of goods and I can tell the difference between piss and rain.

I'll give you Dube for Tavares, he's cheaper and under RFA control, you should jump at that by your logic.



I’m not trying to sell anything, I’n saying so far this season Liljegren was playing Top 4 minutes & doing very well in them not last season, he is barely scratching the surface of what he can do, he’s finally getting that chance to flourish in the Top 4 & he was until getting injured, if you think he has less value then a rental 34yr old Chris Tabev then idk what to tell you, All I was trying to say was Lilly isn’t being moved for Tanev & Lilly has better value from a team standpoint & a market standpoint
Nov. 6, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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I’m not trying to sell anything, I’n saying so far this season Liljegren was playing Top 4 minutes & doing very well in them not last season, he is barely scratching the surface of what he can do, he’s finally getting that chance to flourish in the Top 4 & he was until getting injured, if you think he has less value then a rental 34yr old Chris Tabev then idk what to tell you, All I was trying to say was Lilly isn’t being moved for Tanev & Lilly has better value from a team standpoint & a market standpoint


I know what you're saying, but you're wrong, Tanev is far and away the better player, he has greater trade value because of it. Lillypad isn't good, or he's as good as he's always been, he's not trustworthy. You think he's great because you've never had a real D core. He's a 7th D on most teams in the league.
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.
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I know what you're saying, but you're wrong, Tanev is far and away the better player, he has greater trade value because of it. Lillypad isn't good, or he's as good as he's always been, he's not trustworthy. You think he's great because you've never had a real D core. He's a 7th D on most teams in the league.


Why can’t Lilly get better?, he’s only 24 & had a great start to the season, looking like he was about to take a while step in terms of his development,idk how that’s debatable, he’s had some very good statistics & the play on ice from the eye test has backed it up. Maybe rn Tanev has slightly better value but that isn’t up to me or you, It’s up to our GMs, I have my opinion & you have yours which is completely fair on both our parts, but I do know one thing , if Tanev is acquired by Toronto I can be at least 85% sure Lilly isn’t moving in that deal

Still as I said before

1st + 3rd + Villeneuve for Tanev 50% maybe throw in Minten or Topi if we dump Klinger too (but I doubt anyone wants that Pylon)

I think that is completely fair value for Tanev
 
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