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If the Oilers actually had a decent gm

Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 13, 2023
Published: Nov. 13, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
Trades
1.
EDM
CHI
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Nurse, Darnell
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Never signed
2.
ANA
  1. Broberg, Philip
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Should have went bpa not for need
3.
DAL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
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BPA again
4.
NYI
  1. Bouchard, Evan
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BPA
5.
SEA
    Protected In the expansion draft and convinced to re-sign
    6.
    FLA
      Do I need to say more about this miss...
      7.
      EDM
      FLA
      1. Ceci, Cody
      2. Foegele, Warren
      3. Janmark, Mattias
      4. Kulak, Brett
      5. McLeod, Ryan
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      Never traded and signed for
      8.
      DAL
        Really starting to think the oilers aren't good at this draft thing
        9.
        MIN
          Maybe don't waste assets on bad players?
          10.
          EDM
          1. Zadorov, Nikita ($1,750,000 retained)
          CGY
          1. Skinner, Stuart
          2. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
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          Pretty much a better nurse for cheaper
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          2026
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          ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
          22$83,500,000$83,009,959$850,000$3,875,000$490,041
          Left WingCentreRight Wing
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          $5,750,000$5,750,000
          C, LW
          RFA - 3
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          $12,500,000$12,500,000
          C
          NMC
          UFA - 3
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          $9,500,000$9,500,000
          RW
          NMC
          UFA - 7
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          $5,500,000$5,500,000
          RW, LW
          NMC
          UFA - 5
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $8,500,000$8,500,000
          C, LW
          M-NTC, NMC
          UFA - 2
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $5,125,000$5,125,000
          LW, RW
          NMC
          UFA - 3
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $5,125,000$5,125,000
          LW, C
          NMC
          UFA - 6
          Logo of the Dallas Stars
          $894,167$894,167
          C
          RFA - 2
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $874,125$874,125
          RW, C
          RFA - 1
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
          LW, C
          RFA - 1
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $775,000$775,000
          RW, C
          UFA - 1
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$3,225,000$3M)
          RW, LW
          UFA - 1
          Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $6,000,000$6,000,000
          LD/RD
          UFA - 3
          Logo of the New York Islanders
          $4,000,000$4,000,000
          RD
          RFA - 2
          Logo of the Dallas Stars
          $4,000,000$4,000,000
          G
          RFA - 2
          Logo of the Calgary Flames
          $2,000,000$2,000,000
          LD/RD
          UFA - 1
          Logo of the Seattle Kraken
          $4,000,000$4,000,000
          RD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $762,500$762,500
          G
          UFA - 1
          $775,000$775,000
          RD
          UFA - 2
          Logo of the Minnesota Wild
          $925,000$925,000
          RD
          RFA - 2
          ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $762,500$762,500
          RD
          UFA - 1
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $775,000$775,000
          C
          UFA - 2

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          Nov. 13, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.
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          Ok but you could do that with like 60%+ of GMs...

          I get that Holland has not been great in EDM but those are way to much changes in a "what if" scenario.

          Also, I'd still call this defensive group suspect, especially that left side.
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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          Insert the best gm and he'd still look foolish in bad markets. Hard to attract good vets & stars, always have to overpay. Have to somehow keep picks, succeed at drafting, develop, trade away when can't afford, overpay some. This is now depleted to no return without stripping down to the studs
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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          I don't really want to defend Holland but yeah with hindsight you can make any GM look like an idiot based on their drafting.
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          Nov. 13, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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          We don't live in a perfect world, dude.
          All GMs are bound to have a bad play.
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 4:06 p.m.
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          At least Holland’s contract expires at the end of the season
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 5:26 p.m.
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          Quoting: WJC_Enthusiast
          Ok but you could do that with like 60%+ of GMs...

          I get that Holland has not been great in EDM but those are way to much changes in a "what if" scenario.

          Also, I'd still call this defensive group suspect, especially that left side.


          It's not just Holland though, the Oilers haven't developed a player drafted outside of the 1st round in a decade. Apart from Skinner, they don't have a single draft pick who's accomplished anything of note. The Oilers have absolutely no development in their organization. They haven't really hit on most of their trades or FA signings either. McDavid's time in Edmonton is not going to end well.
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
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          Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
          Insert the best gm and he'd still look foolish in bad markets. Hard to attract good vets & stars, always have to overpay. Have to somehow keep picks, succeed at drafting, develop, trade away when can't afford, overpay some. This is now depleted to no return without stripping down to the studs


          Just look at their drafting record. Skinner, Ethan Bear and John Marino are the only 3 players picked outside of the 1st round to do anything of note and 2 of them aren't on the Oilers. They can't draft and have zero development department once so ever. You want to know why they suck? That's it.
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 5:30 p.m.
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          Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
          We don't live in a perfect world, dude.
          All GMs are bound to have a bad play.


          Yup everyone, however, Edmonton's drafting record for the past decade has been a joke. They have hit on most of their 1st rounders but that's about it. 2 of the 3 players picked outside of the 1st round to have any kind of impact did so on different teams and the other is Skinner who's not looked great this season. The Oilers scouting department is a joke as is their development department. That's likely one of the biggest reasons this team is not going down a fun path.
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.
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          Quoting: IconicHawk
          At least Holland’s contract expires at the end of the season


          The whole front office needs to be fired and rebuilt. All old Oilers should be sent packing and the organization needs to modernize. They don't have a scouting department or a development department.
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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          Quoting: RipNasty
          Yup everyone, however, Edmonton's drafting record for the past decade has been a joke. They have hit on most of their 1st rounders but that's about it. 2 of the 3 players picked outside of the 1st round to have any kind of impact did so on different teams and the other is Skinner who's not looked great this season. The Oilers scouting department is a joke as is their development department. That's likely one of the biggest reasons this team is not going down a fun path.


          That I will blame on Ken Holland. The Red Wings were pure ass at drafting for most of Holland's years at GM.
          Nov. 13, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
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          Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
          That I will blame on Ken Holland. The Red Wings were pure ass at drafting for most of Holland's years at GM.


          It's been a couple of GM's in Edmonton. Its still a little early to blame that all on him but he's done nothing to improve the player development department since he's been there.
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          Nov. 13, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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          Quoting: RipNasty
          It's not just Holland though, the Oilers haven't developed a player drafted outside of the 1st round in a decade. Apart from Skinner, they don't have a single draft pick who's accomplished anything of note. The Oilers have absolutely no development in their organization. They haven't really hit on most of their trades or FA signings either. McDavid's time in Edmonton is not going to end well.


          I completely agree with you here mate!

          Their first rounder have usually been solid (apart from Yakupov and Puljujarvi), they just can't get players from the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds to do anything. This explains why their team has gone nowhere for so long now. They sorely lack depth and I can't see how they fan easily fix this.
           
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