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Simple and Fair

Created by: svfsdv
Published: Nov. 22, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 148/192 (77%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Zadorov, NikitaCalgary FlamesNHL-$3,750,000011---17156--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Robertson, NicholasWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$796,667011---6224--
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,524,167224564369
Change$2,953,333000010
Final$4,477,500 (↑)22456437 (↑)91-3-2

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $12,812,500
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $11,215,001
Relief Change: $4,150,000
Initial LTIR Cap Space: $5,747,499
Coincident TransactionInitial StatusNew StatusCap Hit ChangeRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Klingberg, JohnNHLLTIR$0-1-----------
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Robertson, NicholasWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$796,667011---6224--
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Zadorov, NikitaCalgary FlamesNHL-$3,750,000011---17156--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$5,747,4992047632315
Change-$2,953,333-1000-10
Final$2,794,166 (↓)19 (↓)476322 (↓)15-132
Nov. 22, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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MoxNix
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Keep your trash, Zadorov easily fetches more from 30 other teams.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Keep your trash, Zadorov easily fetches more from 30 other teams.


Seems weird that hasn't happened doesn't it? lol
His rate is a 2nd round pick for straight swap. Thats his value as a rental.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: svfsdv
Seems weird that hasn't happened doesn't it? lol
His rate is a 2nd round pick for straight swap. Thats his value as a rental.


Every single year big physical hard hitting defensemen like Zadorov fetch a 1st + more as deadline rentals.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Every single year big physical hard hitting defensemen like Zadorov fetch a 1st + more as deadline rentals.


Examples?
Nov. 22, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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Quoting: svfsdv
Examples?


Agreed. Aside from his size and physicality, he is an average dman and Calgary is dealing from a position of weakness because he really wants out. He had one year he put up points and that is it.

The biased Flames fans that say every other team overvalueds their players and prospects need to look on the mirror.
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Agreed. Aside from his size and physicality, he is an average dman and Calgary is dealing from a position of weakness because he really wants out. He had one year he put up points and that is it.

The biased Flames fans that say every other team overvalueds their players and prospects need to look on the mirror.


Again, Leafs got Jake McCabe with 50% retention for 3 years, Sam Lafferty, and two 5th round picks from CHI for a 1st and a 2nd. Jake McCabe is arguable a better player than Zadorov is. And we got 3 years at 50%. And CHI was dealing from a strength position. Calgary will be lucky to get a middle prospect or a 2nd round pick. Straight up.
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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Again, Leafs got Jake McCabe with 50% retention for 3 years, Sam Lafferty, and two 5th round picks from CHI for a 1st and a 2nd. Jake McCabe is arguable a better player than Zadorov is. And we got 3 years at 50%. And CHI was dealing from a strength position. Calgary will be lucky to get a middle prospect or a 2nd round pick. Straight up.


You are correct my good man.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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Again, Leafs got Jake McCabe with 50% retention for 3 years, Sam Lafferty, and two 5th round picks from CHI for a 1st and a 2nd. Jake McCabe is arguable a better player than Zadorov is. And we got 3 years at 50%. And CHI was dealing from a strength position. Calgary will be lucky to get a middle prospect or a 2nd round pick. Straight up.


Just because you Lafflanders keep repeating the same nonsense doesn't make it true.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.
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Just because you Lafflanders keep repeating the same nonsense doesn't make it true.


I think they were looking for the examples of someone like Zadorov getting 1st rounders and more at deadline? If memory serves me well, he was last traded for a 3rd, two seasons ago. I mean your avatar is of him, but that doesn't make him elite.

Also there is only one Big Z and he retired already.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:10 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
Quoting: Hobo
I think they were looking for the examples of someone like Zadorov getting 1st rounders and more at deadline?


Ben Chiarot is the first one that comes to mind and he's also the best (as in most similar player) comparable. Chiarot fetched a 1st a 2nd and a prospect. Everybody wanted Chiarot that year just like everyone wants Zadorov now.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.
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You are correct my good man.


It will be interesting to see what he lands, but this talk about a 1st + for Nakita is laughable. Not impossible as we have seen stupid trades before, but my god he isn't worth a 1st not alone adding to it lol
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:15 p.m.
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Ben Chiarot is the first one that comes to mind. If there's a better comparable I can't think of anyhow. Chiarot fetched a 1st a 2nd and a prospect.


Yup one trade which everyone said was a gross overpayment. Also for a player at the time playing 26 minutes a night and doing a lot more for their team - but that is fair, there is indeed one trade of a player who was ranked higher than Zadorov.
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.
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Yup one trade which everyone said was a gross overpayment. Also for a player at the time playing 26 minutes a night and doing a lot more for their team - but that is fair, there is indeed one trade of a player who was ranked higher than Zadorov.


Lol. I've been shot down for saying stuff like this. I am eagerly awaiting the "bidding war" for Z and the first round pick "to start".🤣
Nov. 22, 2023 at 7:58 p.m.
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Just because you Lafflanders keep repeating the same nonsense doesn't make it true.


Lol what's not true in that statement? Props on changing up your usual "Laffs" for Lafflanders...whatever that means.

Keep overrating Z, it's funny.

By the way...has the bidding war started yet?
 
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