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Created by: EQuinn31
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 22, 2023
Published: Nov. 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR Enabled: Yes
Season Days: 192
Days Remaining: 148
Season Remaining: 77%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $89,846,458
Description
3 Team Trade involving NYI/ARI/MTL
Trade to EDM for the extra goalie
Shipped out Allen to NJ, but this could happen anywhere

Main trade is the 3 team trade. And it is Cap compliant
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Fowler, Jacob [Reserve List]
  3. Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
  4. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 7th round pick (BOS)
ARI
  1. Anderson, Josh
Additional Details:
50% Retained
3.
MTL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
4.
MTL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the BOS
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DET
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2026
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$72,264,583$1,170,000$4,082,500$11,235,417
Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$6,051,042
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$6,070,313
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$835,000$643,646 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,250,000$2,505,208
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$3,430,208
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$5,010,417
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,235,417
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,985,000$1,530,104 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$732,292 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$626,302
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,310,417
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$597,396
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$3,757,813
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$732,292
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,000,000$3,083,333
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$668,698 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$590,972
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$665,486 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$859,167$662,275 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$770,833
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$638,507
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$2,697,917
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$8,093,750
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$2,591,927
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,079,167
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$587,760
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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Why would New Jersey want Allen?
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
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That is absolutely no where close to Sorokins value. I also just don’t think the Isles are gonna trade after signing him for 8 years
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.
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Quoting: SadSensFan14
Why would New Jersey want Allen?


Devils have a .875 sv% so far this season
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Icelander24
That is absolutely no where close to Sorokins value. I also just don’t think the Isles are gonna trade after signing him for 8 years


Devils would sell everything for Sorokin. This offer gets beat by them easily.
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: SadSensFan14
Why would New Jersey want Allen?


Thye have had eh Goal tending, I honestly just picked a team that needed goal tending help
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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The market on 4 mill 1Bs isn't that.

Maybe with 50% retention you could hope to get that based on the desmith comp
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Again the market on AHL caliber goalies isn't a 3rd.

Monty-3rd
Allen 50%-3rd
Primeau-6th/7th
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Icelander24
That is absolutely no where close to Sorokins value. I also just don’t think the Isles are gonna trade after signing him for 8 years


I think the Value is there, but I agree. I doubt the Islanders would actually do it. What else would need to be added to make it worth it you think?

They are getting a young top 4 Defensemen, a young goalie prospect whos been great so far, a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder and a flyer on RHP as a middle 6, bottom 6 guy. Plus the team gets younger. They are going to have to do something with how old the team is, and the bad contracts.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
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I don't think anybody is interested in Anderson right now.
And MTL is certainly not interested in retaining on him for 4 years.

Honestly, I'd rather have him at 5.5M than play against him for 2.75M
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Again the market on AHL caliber goalies isn't a 3rd.

Monty-3rd
Allen 50%-3rd
Primeau-6th/7th


Most of these trades are if we were to get Sorokin, at that point the value we get back is probably not much. Ive seen Habs fans say we could get a 1st for Allen which I think is crazy lol
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Blasphem_Guy
I don't think anybody is interested in Anderson right now.
And MTL is certainly not interested in retaining on him for 4 years.

Honestly, I'd rather have him at 5.5M than play against him for 2.75M


Anderson's contract would have to be moved to fit the Sorokin deal. Thats why I moved him out. I see what your saying tho
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: EQuinn31
I think the Value is there, but I agree. I doubt the Islanders would actually do it. What else would need to be added to make it worth it you think?

They are getting a young top 4 Defensemen, a young goalie prospect whos been great so far, a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder and a flyer on RHP as a middle 6, bottom 6 guy. Plus the team gets younger. They are going to have to do something with how old the team is, and the bad contracts.


Barron-2nd
Fowler-3rd
RHP-4th
1st+3rd

You're probably offering 2 1sts of value, which simply isn't enough for Sorokin
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.
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It would cost more than a 7th to take Anderson's contract. He isn't on LTIR, so I doubt the yotes would want to pay his salary
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Barron-2nd
Fowler-3rd
RHP-4th
1st+3rd

You're probably offering 2 1sts of value, which simply isn't enough for Sorokin


I would say Sorokin's value is probably 3 1sts, which I'd throw another 1st rounder in there in '25 if that is what it would take
Nov. 22, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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I would say Sorokin's value is probably 3 1sts, which I'd throw another 1st rounder in there in '25 if that is what it would take


Yeah but NYI isn't going to want a collection of assets that add up to a 1st. They'll want true top assets.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Devils would sell everything for Sorokin. This offer gets beat by them easily.


They would, but Lou doesn't trade in his own division.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: slater417
They would, but Lou doesn't trade in his own division.


Lou has made 16 total trades in his time in NYI

4 were depth/nothing trades
3 were cap dumps

Of the remaining 9
Toews to Avs
JGP from Sens
Matt Martin from leafs (i was tempted to call this one depth/nothing)
Andy Greene from NJD
Palmeri and Zajac from NJD
Leddy to detroit
Romanov from MTL
Horvat from Van
Engvall from Tor

Those are 2 pretty significant trades with NJD
Nov. 22, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.
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Hmm funny how you can turn off cap space. no thanks on that Full contract of Allen. Stolarz is cheaper would go trade for him, if you are thinking a 3rd with no retain to a team who doesnt have the capspace.
 
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