Hard to believe but this is actually even worse than most Leafs trade proposals for Flames defensemen.

Considering you and your other bro heroes want 4 times what Z is worth. It's going to be easy to believe when your heads explode in disappointment

I like both of these but I would replace timmins with a 3rd or anyone else

Replace him with Lily. Timmins is better anyway

lol wtf are you talking about? this seems like a little bit of an overpay by the leafs... the guy is a 3rd pairing D who is a UFA lol what tf do you expect to get for him???

Zadorov could fetch anything from a 3rd to a 1st, IMO. Objectively, a player of his type hasn't been worth more than a 2nd with some retention, but there could be a team (and likely is) that values him within their structure at a 1st with some retention. Flames fans clamouring about Chiarot and other big defensive dmen 'comparables' who fetched a 1st always seem to forget Big Z is playing on the third pair and isn't even killing penalties.