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Created by: jonh514

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2023

Published: Nov. 30, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Obviously this is in a NYI rebuild scenario. How did I do on the value?

Trades

MTL

NYI

Hutson, Lane [Reserve List]
Reinbacher, David
Roy, Joshua
2024 1st round pick (MTL)
2025 1st round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Three A-level prospects (my opinion)
2 unprotected 1sts

MTL

NYI

Additional Details:

Sent back to make the salary work

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$77,697,916	$1,170,000	$4,267,500	$5,802,084

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Barzal, Mathew $9,150,000$9,150,000 C, RW UFA - 8
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Monahan, Sean $1,985,000$1,985,000 ($15,000$15K) C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Dobson, Noah $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2
	Lindström, Gustav $950,000$950,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3
	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Nov. 30, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.

ht42

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Are you seroious with Lane Hutson..............................................................................

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

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Value seems fine imo.

Dobson is worth the mega haul. Barzal is a great add

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.

lowblocksniper

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Why rush the timeline, because the Habs are somewhat succesful?
Be patient and continue on the course they are currently on.

Nov. 30, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.

jonh514

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Quoting: ht42

Are you seroious with Lane Hutson..............................................................................

Cause, if one of Hutson or Reinbacher meet their ceiling, they will become Noah Dobson. I'm doubting that both of them will. there is a chance neither of them will. You have to pay a lot to get a sure thing.

Nov. 30, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.

jonh514

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Quoting: lowblocksniper

Why rush the timeline, because the Habs are somewhat succesful?
Be patient and continue on the course they are currently on.

No. It's about opportunity to get young "sure thing" players for lottery tickets.

Nov. 30, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.

ht42

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Quoting: jonh514

What's Montreal will gonna/sould be in few years :

Guhle - Dman via trade of free agency
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Barron/Mailloux/Another Dman via trade or free agency.

So, I don't see the necessary to trade Reinbacher and Hutson for Dobson.............

Nov. 30, 2023 at 11:59 a.m.

jonh514

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Quoting: ht42

Yeah I understand. But what if Hutson doesn't turn into "Frankenstein Adam Fox/Quinn Hughes"?
But what if Reinbacher doesn't turn into the next Seider?
What if Roy is only a 3rd liner?
What if our next 2 firsts are picked from the mushy middle?

This deal gets us young players entering their prime who are "sure thing" top line NHL'ers.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.

SCGLisme2

Make it Work

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Quoting: jonh514

That's a lot of "ifs", The Habs are in a rebuild also. I don't see the point of never giving them a chance and saying let's give up on all these guys. I wouldn't do it.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.

ht42

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Quoting: jonh514

Trading a high-celing potential prospect for a roster player isn't a good idea. We know what's the perfect example of that : Suzuki for Pacioretty.......

Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.

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jonh514

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Quoting: ht42

Trading a high-celing potential prospect for a roster player isn't a good idea. We know what's the perfect example of that : Suzuki for Pacioretty.......

Unless you think the ceiling of the young roster player is as high or higher than the potential ceiling of the prospect. Dobson is 23. Barzal is 26. This is tantamount to trading the 13th OA pick for Dach or the 1st and 2nd for Newhook, only we are getting 2 much better players.

Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.

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Fylster

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if the isles were to rebuild, there is no way dobson is getting traded. The number 1 guy they trade in the need of a rebuild is brock nelson.

Nov. 30, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.

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Rebuilding teams typically trade away their best young players, so this might happen.

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