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Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2023
Published: Nov. 30, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Dufour, William
  2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
2.
CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
3.
CGY
  1. Räty, Aatu
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
4.
CGY
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
  2. Pashin, Alexander
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$68,752,457$0$325,000$14,747,543
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
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UFA - 6
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$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
RW
RFA - 1
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$836,667$836,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
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$823,333$823,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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LBS
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Flames are 1 point out of a playoff spot and starting to play better, believe in the boys!
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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Leafs accept and we’ll take tanev for that price too lol
Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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Flames are 1 point out of a playoff spot and starting to play better, believe in the boys!


This is TDL transactions lol
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Leafs accept and we’ll take tanev for that price too lol


If you want Tanev then we will need niemela Minton and change that 3rd to a 1st
Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:03 p.m.
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If you want Tanev then we will need niemela Minton and change that 3rd to a 1st


We can change the 3rd to a first and add niemela but minten isn’t getting traded for a couple of ufas
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.
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Go Calgary. Keep your players and hopefully sign them.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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You're not getting Raty for Tanev.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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Canucks pass. We can target Tanev and or Zadorov this summer for free.So im not sure how much we would pay in season.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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Flames decline the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th trades for sure
Nov. 30, 2023 at 3:16 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
We can change the 3rd to a first and add niemela but minten isn’t getting traded for a couple of ufas


In this scenario, the Canucks have Tanev. We'll flip him to the Leafs for Niemela and a 1st!
Nov. 30, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Jim_Benning_Almost
In this scenario, the Canucks have Tanev. We'll flip him to the Leafs for Niemela and a 1st!


Leafs obviously decline that
Nov. 30, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames decline the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th trades for sure


Lol no they don't, be real.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Redmile04
If you want Tanev then we will need niemela Minton and change that 3rd to a 1st


I'm confused by this statement, are you saying for Zadorov and Tanev that's your expectation or all of that just for Tanev? Just so I'm clear.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: whatsmyageagain281
Lol no they don't, be real.


Yes they do lol.
A 3rd and pending UFA doesn't come close to Zadorov
Upgrade the 3rd to a 2nd and the Vancouver trade is probably fair. Raty was considered a top 70 prospect last year but not anymore
DeAngelo is a cap dump and a known locker room cancer. Pashin is a C level prospect that is probably going to stay in the KHL, 1st and 2nd is definitely not enough for Lindholm
Nov. 30, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Yes they do lol.
A 3rd and pending UFA doesn't come close to Zadorov
Upgrade the 3rd to a 2nd and the Vancouver trade is probably fair. Raty was considered a top 70 prospect last year but not anymore
DeAngelo is a cap dump and a known locker room cancer. Pashin is a C level prospect that is probably going to stay in the KHL, 1st and 2nd is definitely not enough for Lindholm


I'll agree with what you're saying about the DeAngelo trade. But I think you're dreaming if you think Zadorov is getting much more than that if at all. Tanev, I'll agree that change makes sense though but I don't think they scoff at any of those 3 deals by any means.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.
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I'll agree with what you're saying about the DeAngelo trade. But I think you're dreaming if you think Zadorov is getting much more than that if at all. Tanev, I'll agree that change makes sense though but I don't think they scoff at any of those 3 deals by any means.


Abruzzese has next to zero trade value. He needs to play 69 more NHL games this season to not become a Group 6 UFA (you can read about that here). The problem is there are only 60-64 games remaining in the season so it is impossible for him to meet that quota.

A 3rd alone does not get you Zadorov, he is easily worth more than a 2nd. Not to mention this is very likely a sellers market and demand for defenseman is high thanks to Vegas winning the cup. Zadorov is not Luke Schenn, he is a strictly better player in every way possible. Zadorov is a player very similar to Nic Hague (who just played a big role in Vegas' cup win).
Nov. 30, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.
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Columbus got a first for Gavrikov and Korpisalo. I think that is the hope for Calgary even though I believe Gavrikov is better than him
Nov. 30, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Abruzzese has next to zero trade value. He needs to play 69 more NHL games this season to not become a Group 6 UFA (you can read about that here). The problem is there are only 60-64 games remaining in the season so it is impossible for him to meet that quota.

A 3rd alone does not get you Zadorov, he is easily worth more than a 2nd. Not to mention this is very likely a sellers market and demand for defenseman is high thanks to Vegas winning the cup. Zadorov is not Luke Schenn, he is a strictly better player in every way possible. Zadorov is a player very similar to Nic Hague (who just played a big role in Vegas' cup win).


I think you will be surprised when Zadorov doesn't fetch you the moon, the sun, the stars and the sky. Maybe I'm wrong, it's happened before and it will happen again, but I don't think Calgary is getting the return the fans seem to expect they will.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 5:01 p.m.
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I think you will be surprised when Zadorov doesn't fetch you the moon, the sun, the stars and the sky. Maybe I'm wrong, it's happened before and it will happen again, but I don't think Calgary is getting the return the fans seem to expect they will.


I don't think he will get a 1st but he will almost certainly get a 2nd + a prospect. Chiarot was sold for a 1st+ and Zadorov is 10 times the player Chiarot is
Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.
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I don't think he will get a 1st but he will almost certainly get a 2nd + a prospect. Chiarot was sold for a 1st+ and Zadorov is 10 times the player Chiarot is


"General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the #Canucks have acquired D Nikita Zadorov from the Calgary Flames in exchange for a fifth-round pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft (acquired from CHI) and a third-round pick in 2026."

Sorry, you were saying?
Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
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"General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the #Canucks have acquired D Nikita Zadorov from the Calgary Flames in exchange for a fifth-round pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft (acquired from CHI) and a third-round pick in 2026."

Sorry, you were saying?


It's November and no retention. I think of all my posts about Zadorov recently I've been quite clear about it being at or near the deadline and probably with retention.
 
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