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Allen for Campbell 1st 2nd

Created by: gm_jeanguy
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2023
Published: Dec. 2, 2023
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  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2026 2nd round pick (EDM)
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23$83,500,000$82,517,083$1,170,000$4,857,500$982,917
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Dec. 2, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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mokumboi
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That's not even good enough to dump Campbell, let alone get anything back.
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Dec. 2, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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it's not bad, but i'd think youd have ti part with bourgeault, or maybe lavoie. that contract dump is significant.
Dec. 2, 2023 at 2:46 p.m.
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If the first is unprotected, we do it
Dec. 2, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.
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Ya a good prospect minimum would have to be added, that's a big pill to swallow. But apparently McDvd Drai & 24 1st are the only unavailables
Dec. 2, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
That's not even good enough to dump Campbell, let alone get anything back.


I wouldn’t say Allen at 4 mill for 2 years is +ve value tho
Dec. 2, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
That's not even good enough to dump Campbell, let alone get anything back.


Allen is negative value too though
Dec. 2, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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Allen is negative value too though


Quoting: dgibb10
I wouldn’t say Allen at 4 mill for 2 years is +ve value tho


Perhaps minimally, like 1M overpaid. That's a far cry from a 15M dump.
Dec. 2, 2023 at 5:00 p.m.
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I think it’s perfect if the dump cost on Campbell is a 1st and a 3rd like everyone has been saying
Dec. 2, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Perhaps minimally, like 1M overpaid. That's a far cry from a 15M dump.


Allen is a backup... That's like a 2-3 million dollar overpaid for another 2 years...

That's roughly 4-6 mill overpaid

Campbell can also bounce back, I could see him getting a league min deal over the next 3 years which would take away roughly 3 million from 15 million... Leading to the difference on salary being 7-9 million dollars which would mean the extra 1st and 2nd is plenty enough and maybe too much
Dec. 2, 2023 at 5:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Allen is a backup... That's like a 2-3 million dollar overpaid for another 2 years...

That's roughly 4-6 mill overpaid

Campbell can also bounce back, I could see him getting a league min deal over the next 3 years which would take away roughly 3 million from 15 million... Leading to the difference on salary being 7-9 million dollars which would mean the extra 1st and 2nd is plenty enough and maybe too much


First of all, I was saying 1M per season. Also, would he be a backup in Edmonton? Probably not. Calling it 4-6M overpaid is exaggerated to the moon.

And how does Campbell magically switch to a minimum deal? What sorcery is that? All of your math is dubious.
Dec. 2, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
First of all, I was saying 1M per season. Also, would he be a backup in Edmonton? Probably not. Calling it 4-6M overpaid is exaggerated to the moon.

And how does Campbell magically switch to a minimum deal? What sorcery is that? All of your math is dubious.


I know you said 1M... But he's more overpaid than that... Allen is a 1-2M dollar goalie... Subtract 4 by that and you get 2-3M... Times that by 2 bc of his contract length and you get 4-6M in total...

And I'm saying I could see teams being fine paying Campbell 775K... Not that he's going to have that contract
Dec. 2, 2023 at 5:58 p.m.
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I know you said 1M... But he's more overpaid than that... Allen is a 1-2M dollar goalie... Subtract 4 by that and you get 2-3M... Times that by 2 bc of his contract length and you get 4-6M in total...

And I'm saying I could see teams being fine paying Campbell 775K... Not that he's going to have that contract



Allen is a 2M and change goalie, who would be worth 3M and change in Edmonton because he'd be playing a lot more.

And again, you do not want to play the x2 game in this comparison. tears of joy
Dec. 2, 2023 at 7:30 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Allen is a 2M and change goalie, who would be worth 3M and change in Edmonton because he'd be playing a lot more.

And again, you do not want to play the x2 game in this comparison. tears of joy


Naming some guys who outperformed Allen in 22-23: Matt Murray, Alex Lyon, Jordan Binnington, Petr Mrazek and was 1 spot ahead of Jack Campbell...

x2 was bc the contract is 2 years long
 
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