Philly didn’t trade Laughton for a 1 and a 2, they aren’t trading him for just a 2

Nashville obviously accepts

Do we have any actual proof they were offered a 1st+ for a career 3rd liner?

I would say a Laughton deal revolves around a 1st and Krebs..... but Leafs fans are delusional🤣

Issue here is Laughton isn't the prototypical 3rd liner.

He suffers from what I call "Mike Ricci Syndrom": not good enough to be a permanent top 6, but too good to be a permanent bottom 6.

3 years of Laughton at 3 million? Yeah.... that's a late 1st at least.

I guess I wouldn't spend a 1st+ on a guy who's been a career 30pt player.

Of course they do. That is at least one first round asset too many. I don’t think that highly of Colton Sissons, still like him.

You could also create a 3rd line by activating tuch and not playing cozens on the wing

Wow....3 1st round picks for Saros? I mean....That's way too much. Not to mention that UPL has better stats than Saros this year...

You're just giving away Olofsson...for nothing? Umm, he's better than Sissons...

Is he, though? Olofsson is a one dimensional shooter with bad possession metrics. Sissons is a defensive 3C who just happens to have more points than Olofsson.

Now it's 2 1sts for Laughs....lol.

5v5 Pts/60

Olofsson 2.24
Sissons 1.34

GF%

Olofsson 47.62
Sissons 40.91


Looks considerably better to me.

Laugh, but for what Laughton is, plus that contract, it wouldn't put it beyond the realm of possibility

P/60 is irrelevant to what OP is trying create in the post. He's trying to create a more defensive third line, to which Olofsson does not fit. He is a pylon in the defensive zone.

I'd take a 30 point defensive Sissons at 2.8 over a one dimensional 40 point Olofsson at 4.7

You love saying this.

Erik Johnson, jokiharju, girgensons, jost ,okposo for McDavid. What? It's 5 firsts!

Considering Krebs just became waivers-eligible, yes, he's worth at least a 1st...if not more.

Well, he's not. He's playing 4th line on a non playoff team in his d+5 season

He's 14th in his draft class in points...

I would need to wait D+5 years to only hope a 2024 1st round pick is 14th in his draft class.

5v5 GA/60:

Laughton 3.06 (Olofsson 3.08)
Krebs 1.53

5v5 ATOI:

Laughton 12:02
Krebs 10:59

GF%
Laughton 42.86
Krebs 53.33

Sabres 1st won’t be “late” though
And that makes a HUGE difference imo

Laughton might be good enough for a LATE 1st,
but not a MID 1st- and certainly not a mid1st + Krebs- no way

I think that maybe undervalued Laughton. But that is me and my evaluation of Laughton and his game.

But to suggest Laughton isn't worth a 1st I belive is an error. The player is very good. The contract is very good.

If the Sabres were in on Laughton, either that 1st carries conditions, or Philly is adding to Laughton.

But I definitely stand by my statement: if Philly is entertaining a move with Buffalo, it starts with a 1st and Krebs. No reason for Philly to make the deal otherwise.

U can stand by it all you want,
but it’s still crazy

Laughton is an above average 3rd liner
Maybe even a “good” one

But he’s not worth a mid1st OR Krebs,
let alone BOTH
That’s just absurd to even suggest

The Sabres don’t become a Cup Contender by adding Laughton
Hell, he doesn’t even get them in the playoffs
You’re overvaluing this guy like crazy

Sabres aren’t gonna pay like that,
just to miss the playoffs with him
Especially not with all the forward talent we have (& have coming) who have a higher ceiling than he does

I never claimed the Sabres should be in on him. I said IF.

Is it a price I pay? No. But I am suggesting for where Philly is, what Laughton amd and what that contract is..... it probably takes that.

We can agree to disagree. What is forum is all about..... different thought processes engaging.

If Philly gets a return like that I’ll be shocked
Seems u might be thinking Krebs doesn’t have much trade value- which could be right- but there’s ZERO CHANCE the Sabres will just dump him & “sell low”

Could be right, but Adams and Company are also reaching a piss or get of the pot point with Krebs.

Kulich is coming.....