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Who Says No

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 12, 2023
Published: Dec. 12, 2023
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Who says no?

Thoughts?
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
6.5m x 6 years for Pesce extension.
CAR
  1. Nylander, William
Additional Details:
10.5m x 8 year Nylander extension.
2.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$79,169,084$0$0$4,330,916
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Waivers ExemptKnies, Matthew
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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Bertuzzi, Tyler
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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Necas, Martin
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptRobertson, Nicholas
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Domi, Max
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
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UFA - 1
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
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UFA - 3
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Gregor, Noah
$775,000$775,000
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RFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
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UFA - 4
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Reaves, Ryan
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
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McMann, Bobby
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Woll, Joseph
$766,667$766,667
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RFA - 2
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Tanev, Christopher
-$1,125,000-$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Samsonov, Ilya
$3,550,000$3,550,000
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UFA - 1
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McCabe, Jake
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Timmins, Conor
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
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UFA - 1
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Klingberg, John
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
#1
jcambers
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CGY does if there's retention AND they're giving away a 3rd.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
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Trying to be as objective as possible (I’m a huge Canes fan but also a huge Nylander fan) - not sure why the 2nd is there. Considering Necas is an RFA that should make up for any value gap that is there.

I think where both teams are - it’s a fair move.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Trying to be as objective as possible (I’m a huge Canes fan but also a huge Nylander fan) - not sure why the 2nd is there. Considering Necas is an RFA that should make up for any value gap that is there.

I think where both teams are - it’s a fair move.


With how bad the Canes are on defence this year, I wouldn't move Pesce. However, I would gladly do this deal if I was the Leafs
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
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Sounds like you’ve pinpointed the issues to Canes have.

Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
With how bad the Canes are on defence this year, I wouldn't move Pesce. However, I would gladly do this deal if I was the Leafs
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Trying to be as objective as possible (I’m a huge Canes fan but also a huge Nylander fan) - not sure why the 2nd is there. Considering Necas is an RFA that should make up for any value gap that is there.

I think where both teams are - it’s a fair move.


2nd round pick was a last second decision.

So Pesce + Necas for Nylander?
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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Everyone not named Treliving
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
With how bad the Canes are on defence this year, I wouldn't move Pesce. However, I would gladly do this deal if I was the Leafs


Has it been their defense or their goaltending?
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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Everyone wants a magic answer to everything, when the real issue is likely a combination of multiple different things.

I’d say that after figuring out Orlov-TDA couldn’t be a thing, their ‘Defenseman’ has been the furthest from their problem. Defense from their forwards has been an issue along with Goaltending saving the ones they should.

Quoting: Dan_the_Man
Has it been their defense or their goaltending?
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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I’m not the right person to answer this as I’d do Necas/Pesce for Nylander all day long (reasons I’ve previously mentioned).

Quoting: TMLBRIAN
2nd round pick was a last second decision.

So Pesce + Necas for Nylander?
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:41 p.m.
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Leafs say no to Carolina
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Everyone wants a magic answer to everything, when the real issue is likely a combination of multiple different things.

I’d say that after figuring out Orlov-TDA couldn’t be a thing, their ‘Defenseman’ has been the furthest from their problem. Defense from their forwards has been an issue along with Goaltending saving the ones they should.


As an outsider looking in my biggest take has been the goaltending just my opinion
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Everyone wants a magic answer to everything, when the real issue is likely a combination of multiple different things.

I’d say that after figuring out Orlov-TDA couldn’t be a thing, their ‘Defenseman’ has been the furthest from their problem. Defense from their forwards has been an issue along with Goaltending saving the ones they should.


The whole team this year just seems to be in a funk. Which stinks, I love watching them
Dec. 12, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.
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Hasn’t been good for sure…but when the canes give up chances they are whoppers. Go watch the goals given up to Vancouver…the first one is excusable (good plays by Van causing rebound and put back). The 2nd and 3rd have forwards watching slot shots and tap ins. The 4th is the only one that was on Raanta.

Microcosm of the season - breakdowns, battle back, back breaker soft goal.

Quoting: Dan_the_Man
As an outsider looking in my biggest take has been the goaltending just my opinion
 
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