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Whats all this Will Borgen talk

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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2023
Published: Dec. 20, 2023
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Trades
1.
SEA
  1. Kokkonen, Mikko
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2025 5th round pick (TOR)
2.
NSH
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2024 7th round pick (TOR)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Brodie, TJ ($2,500,000 retained)
4.
TOR
  1. 2026 6th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Samsonov, Ilya ($1,775,000 retained)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
  3. 2025 5th round pick (CHI)
5.
TOR
  1. Fleury, Marc-André ($1,750,000 retained)
MIN
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
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$925,000$925,000
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RFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
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RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
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UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
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UFA - 1
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
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UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
G
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
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UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 20, 2023 at 10:45 p.m.
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'Whats all this Will Borgen talk'. Well you know Leafs fans, thinking mid to bottom enders from non playoff teams are saviours. Gee, surprised you didn't make a typical LeafFanatic trade, Borgen for Timmins and first.
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Dec. 20, 2023 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
'Whats all this Will Borgen talk'. Well you know Leafs fans, thinking mid to bottom enders from non playoff teams are saviours. Gee, surprised you didn't make a typical LeafFanatic trade, Borgen for Timmins and first.


Well that’s not very nice. But I’ll take it as a compliment 😉
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Dec. 20, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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who the heck is paying a 2nd rounder for TJ Brodie?
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Dec. 20, 2023 at 10:53 p.m.
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who the heck is paying a 2nd rounder for TJ Brodie?


Apparently Ottawa. Silly F***ers
Dec. 20, 2023 at 10:54 p.m.
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Well that’s not very nice. But I’ll take it as a compliment 😉


Actually your trade for Borgen might be a little light from Leafs side. But as rule, the Leaf trades on CF, widely overpay for middling Dmen....just guys that aren't difference makers. 95% of TDL deals don't help the buyers.
Dec. 20, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 20, 2023 at 11:50 p.m.
Will Borgen = nah

Adam Larsson = yes


Thats who people should be targeting out of SEA
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Dec. 20, 2023 at 11:59 p.m.
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Well that’s not very nice. But I’ll take it as a compliment 😉


This guy really doesn't know what he's talking about and tries to shoot down any Leafs fan who looks to improve our team from without, don't even humour him. Truth is, you put together a trade that is fair value for a player who would address our needs and greatly benefit our roster, well done for that. As for his statement that he's a middling player from a non-playoff team, Borgen actually played in the top 4 during last year's playoffs for a Krakken team that shutdown one of the best offensive teams in the league in the Avs, then reigning champs.

Even still, this year has been considered his breakout season, one in which he's been doing fantastic while bringing all the attributes we'd want in a partner for Rielly. What Palhal should keep in mind is that the Krakken were in their 2nd year as a franchise when they beat the Avs in round 1, and did not have Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Rielly, etc. in their lineup.

By his logic, Kucherov, Crosby, Tage Thompson, Rasmus Dahlin, Roman Josi, Kirill Kaprizov, McDavid, Drasisatl, Jack Hughes, Bedard etc. must be bums because they're currently playing on teams that are outside the playoff picture. Nobody tell him that teams ice a roster of 12 forwards, 6 D and 2 goalies most nights!

Kudos for being reasonable, don't let unreasonable people make you feel otherwise!
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Dec. 21, 2023 at 12:00 a.m.
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we will assimilate the borgen
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Dec. 21, 2023 at 7:50 a.m.
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Change the sens side of the trade from a 2nd to Domanik Kubalik with no retention and it's possible.

Sens can't absorb $2.5M in salary, has to be dollars in = dollars out.
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Dec. 21, 2023 at 7:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
This guy really doesn't know what he's talking about and tries to shoot down any Leafs fan who looks to improve our team from without, don't even humour him. Truth is, you put together a trade that is fair value for a player who would address our needs and greatly benefit our roster, well done for that. As for his statement that he's a middling player from a non-playoff team, Borgen actually played in the top 4 during last year's playoffs for a Krakken team that shutdown one of the best offensive teams in the league in the Avs, then reigning champs.

Even still, this year has been considered his breakout season, one in which he's been doing fantastic while bringing all the attributes we'd want in a partner for Rielly. What Palhal should keep in mind is that the Krakken were in their 2nd year as a franchise when they beat the Avs in round 1, and did not have Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Rielly, etc. in their lineup.

By his logic, Kucherov, Crosby, Tage Thompson, Rasmus Dahlin, Roman Josi, Kirill Kaprizov, McDavid, Drasisatl, Jack Hughes, Bedard etc. must be bums because they're currently playing on teams that are outside the playoff picture. Nobody tell him that teams ice a roster of 12 forwards, 6 D and 2 goalies most nights!

Kudos for being reasonable, don't let unreasonable people make you feel otherwise!


Well thank you and much appreciated. There is a few on here that go on every post and saying the same thing. 100% agree with this. People are unhappy in their own lives and are able to take it out on people in this site because they don’t have to do it face to face. I’m aware of that and take it with a grain of salt. We all try to keep values close and to make sense but most of time people are arguing over opinions. Either way, at least there are a few good ones on here. Ty👍
Dec. 21, 2023 at 7:56 a.m.
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Quoting: BsInOttawa
Change the sens side of the trade from a 2nd to Domanik Kubalik with no retention and it's possible.

Sens can't absorb $2.5M in salary, has to be dollars in = dollars out.


Didn’t realize you guys were that tight. Isn’t Chabot or one of the D on LTIR? I thought they had space from that? But unfortunately I’m trying to relieve the 2.5M to pick up defence. Appreciate tossing Kubalik in there though. Lol👍
Dec. 21, 2023 at 7:59 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Will Borgen = nah

Adam Larsson = yes


Thats who people should be targeting out of SEA


Definitely my first choice too but if Sea doesn’t want to move him or is asking too much or maybe they go after both? Put Lily and Brodie in the deal along with some prospects and draft picks.
Dec. 21, 2023 at 9:20 a.m.
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Quoting: DealFinder67
Didn’t realize you guys were that tight. Isn’t Chabot or one of the D on LTIR? I thought they had space from that? But unfortunately I’m trying to relieve the 2.5M to pick up defence. Appreciate tossing Kubalik in there though. Lol👍


Chabot is on LTIR, but he's coming back. It's only temporary. They're going to have to trade someone already when Pinto comes off suspension, they had to play with 19 skaters first game of the season to be eligible for emergency call up next game.
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Dec. 21, 2023 at 9:31 a.m.
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Chabot is on LTIR, but he's coming back. It's only temporary. They're going to have to trade someone already when Pinto comes off suspension, they had to play with 19 skaters first game of the season to be eligible for emergency call up next game.


Ahh ok, makes sense. 👍
 
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