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Younger Players to Target for Retool

Created by: StDetroitBlueWings
Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 21, 2023
Published: Dec. 21, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
More or less not looking deep into values, just looking at players to offload as well as targeting younger players potentially looking for a change of scenery

Going to be an interesting rest of the year to be a Blues fan

Would like to get rid of Krug as well, but that may need to be an offseason move. Hopefully can keep playing better and increase trade value.. maybe Philly would want him still and he waives

Other players (personally) I'd be taking offers on would be Krug, Faulk, and Hayes. But not as much of a pressing need to get rid of them. Can wait until the offseason.

Hayes is the interesting one. Decent cap hit but a few more years. Acquired for cheap so other teams would hope to get him for cheap. He's a good stop gap for another year or two while some of these guys in the pipelines develop, then can ship retained for a decent haul if teams are interested in a solid 2/3C for cheap
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Vrána, Jakub ($1,312,500 retained)
  2. 2025 6th round pick (STL)
2.
PHI
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Not even sure his value. Been seeing other ACGMs range from a 1st to a 4th
3.
STL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi ($1,600,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Any team looking for middle 6 scoring
4.
STL
  1. Carter, Jeff
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  3. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
If Carter waives, add pick as well. This makes cap work.
PIT
  1. Saad, Brandon
Additional Details:
Provides speed and good middle six scoring plus good PK play. Value on this is probably off but Saad would be a good fit in PIT, just tough with both teams close to the cap
5.
STL
  1. Frederic, Trent
  2. Lauko, Jakub
Additional Details:
Could use another LD with Forbort and Gryz out. Leddy a solid LD. Could retain salary possibly for a pick
BOS
  1. Leddy, Nick
Additional Details:
Once again, not mainly focusing on value, more looking at who to ship off to open spots and younger players I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on
6.
STL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Scandella, Marco
Additional Details:
Any team looking for d -help
7.
VAN
    What's the cost? Higher cap hit and seems to be falling out of favor in VCR and seems to be well known, so could assume price isn't too high, right?
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    2025
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    2026
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    23$83,500,000$82,253,095$20,000$850,000$1,246,905
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    $5,800,000$5,800,000
    LW, RW, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $8,125,000$8,125,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 8
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    $8,125,000$8,125,000
    RW
    UFA - 8
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $3,571,429$3,571,429
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $835,833$835,833
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $775,000$775,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $2,300,000$2,300,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $775,000$775,000
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $775,000$775,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $800,000$800,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $825,000$825,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,125,000$3,125,000
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $775,000$775,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2

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    Dec. 21, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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    I have no interest in bringing back Kapanen. Was never a fan of his game. (I know you said any team, I just don't think Toronto is the right fit).
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: TMLBRIAN
    I have no interest in bringing back Kapanen. Was never a fan of his game. (I know you said any team, I just don't think Toronto is the right fit).


    Mainly picked Kap to TOR for that connection and potential familiarity but yeah, can be any team. Mainly just hoping for a 3rd round pick in return for him.
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    Dec. 21, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
    Mainly picked Kap to TOR for that connection and potential familiarity but yeah, can be any team. Mainly just hoping for a 3rd round pick in return for him.


    If we can get him at a lower AAV, I'd kinda like to re-sign him.
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    Dec. 21, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    If we can get him at a lower AAV, I'd kinda like to re-sign him.


    I honestly like his game. If he would sign something like a 2x2.5 I'd be all over that. Just don't want longer term to block some of these younger guys and keep lower cap for Kap
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    Dec. 21, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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    Bs pass pretty easily. Want zero part in that contract
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    Dec. 21, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: LPProductions
    Bs pass pretty easily. Want zero part in that contract


    Could we interest you in a Marco Scandella for a third instead?
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
    Could we interest you in a Marco Scandella for a third instead?


    Don't see them trading for a defenseman unless it's a tangible upgrade (ie. Hanifin) or a 7th dman. Scandella making too much $
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.
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    I mean i'd accept for pens but Carter likely declines.
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 2:58 p.m.
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    I mean i'd accept for pens but Carter likely declines.


    I'd have to agree he declines. He's really just added to make the cap work and so the Blues don't have to retain for a few years. Don't even want him tbh but with it expiring at the end of the year, why not.

    Plus if he declines, the Blues could possibly retain some money but it would require a pretty decent pick or prospect to make that happen, depending on the amount.
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    Dec. 21, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
    I'd have to agree he declines. He's really just added to make the cap work and so the Blues don't have to retain for a few years. Don't even want him tbh but with it expiring at the end of the year, why not.

    Plus if he declines, the Blues could possibly retain some money but it would require a pretty decent pick or prospect to make that happen, depending on the amount.


    Saad to Pittsburgh will always be discussed given it's his home town but I personally don't see Dubas spending anymore high assets (1st/2nd round picks or high end prospects (Yager, Pickering, Blomqvist, Broz or Murashov)

    TOR fans will yap that "oh he's going to blow your future" but he was pretty straight forward coming into Pittsburgh that his goal is to try to continue to contend while also trying to start working on the future (the pens havent had assets for years because of the cup runs which obviously is worth it but they do need to work on that now).

    So i don't see major moves for the pens this year personally unless someone with a large cap hit goes to LTIR for the season (aka pull a Stone or Kuch)

    Carter and his wife bought a new house in Pittsburgh, they've said once he's done they're staying in Pittsburgh as well so there is literally no chance he waives lol.
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.
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    Flyers declined
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: Kaiser1776
    Flyers declined


    What's the asking price? That's more the purpose of this. Just spitballing values
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
    What's the asking price? That's more the purpose of this. Just spitballing values

    I believe the have no plans on trading him
    Dec. 21, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Kaiser1776
    I believe the have no plans on trading him


    Just seems like a weird situation with him not being utilized properly. And he's on Johnstons trade board
    https://theathletic.com/5147274/2023/12/20/nhl-trade-board-gibson-guentzel-kuzmenko/
     
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