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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 3 - Winter Blues

Jan. 3 at 4:28 p.m.
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And have 50+ mill tied up in 5 players?

Not a big fan


The bigger issue is that those 5 players are all forwards. For me, it's not that it would be a bad contract, just a less than ideal asset allocation.

But Nylander has improved year over year and I'd rather give him the dollars to extend him and deal with it for a year until JT comes off the books (or re-signs on the cheap). If the options are

a) trade him at the deadline while we're a playoff team
b) let him walk as a UFA
c) re-sign him at $10m+

I'm going c every day
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Jan. 3 at 4:34 p.m.
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The bigger issue is that those 5 players are all forwards. For me, it's not that it would be a bad contract, just a less than ideal asset allocation.

But Nylander has improved year over year and I'd rather give him the dollars to extend him and deal with it for a year until JT comes off the books (or re-signs on the cheap). If the options are

a) trade him at the deadline while we're a playoff team
b) let him walk as a UFA
c) re-sign him at $10m+

I'm going c every day


Yep just dont give him Pasta money lul

2 more points than Gaudreau should not = 11.25m lul

As when Gaudreau had 115 points 10.5m was sitting there

Would prefer 10m x 8 years but if 10.5 is when he will sign so be it

Who knows though still an early estimate he may drop from 117 to 100 and then we see something like 9.85m lul
Jan. 3 at 4:46 p.m.
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Yep just dont give him Pasta money lul

2 more points than Gaudreau should not = 11.25m lul

As when Gaudreau had 115 points 10.5m was sitting there

Would prefer 10m x 8 years but if 10.5 is when he will sign so be it

Who knows though still an early estimate he may drop from 117 to 100 and then we see something like 9.85m lul


These big contracts are all about % of cap. So if he got Pasta's cap %, that would be an $11.84m/yr deal. At Gaudreau's cap %, it would be $10.27m/yr.

I think Gaudreau < Nylander < Pasta so figure he's in between those numbers. I'm just hoping for a 5yr deal for Nylander hopefully south of $11m
Jan. 3 at 5:26 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 3 at 5:33 p.m.
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These big contracts are all about % of cap. So if he got Pasta's cap %, that would be an $11.84m/yr deal. At Gaudreau's cap %, it would be $10.27m/yr.

I think Gaudreau < Nylander < Pasta so figure he's in between those numbers. I'm just hoping for a 5yr deal for Nylander hopefully south of $11m


Im fine going 8 years as I dont think Willy's playstyle = drop

Like hes not overly physical and all that so I could see him playing well all the way through like Stamkos

Speed and stuff might drop but who knows

Like if they can go 10.25m x 8 years 0 issues as u should get 5-6 really good years out of it.

But yea if hes asking for 11m+ than you may have to explore moving on. As there are some interesting FA options

Reinhardt, Marchessault, Guentzel, etc.

Or bite the bullet and suffer a year or purgatory lul

But yea if he walked but they got Rein for 10m x 7 Years or Guentzel 9.5m x 6 years wouldnt be to upset.
Jan. 3 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Juice
The bigger issue is that those 5 players are all forwards. For me, it's not that it would be a bad contract, just a less than ideal asset allocation.

But Nylander has improved year over year and I'd rather give him the dollars to extend him and deal with it for a year until JT comes off the books (or re-signs on the cheap). If the options are

a) trade him at the deadline while we're a playoff team
b) let him walk as a UFA
c) re-sign him at $10m+

I'm going c every day


It's 4 and 1

And I'd rather asset recoup... Make sure it's going to cost another team a decent chunk and take them out of the bidding war for other players... i.e. making those players cheaper while still bringing up what we have...
Jan. 3 at 7:16 p.m.
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Looks like I was right

Jones starting tonight per Keefe

So keep an eye on Saturday for Hildeby

If not WTF we doing lul


Also Robertson out, Holmberg in

WHY lul. Guy has 2 goals in 3 games

Should have been McMann
Jan. 3 at 9:53 p.m.
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Guess Dostal forgot Ducks want Celibrini this year lul
Jan. 3 at 10:15 p.m.
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Im just getting a bad feeling about this game
Jan. 3 at 10:22 p.m.
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Only the Leafs would get a penalty call like that

McMann just the scapegoat cause the league got caught with its pants down in the ARI-FLA game

Cousins gets away with murder twice with FLA resulting in 2 retaliations
Jan. 3 at 10:33 p.m.
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Having Domi and Bertuzzi out was such a bad call on Keefe for that 4 on 4. Just have the big 4 out there who cares.

Holy cow what was that lul

Just gift the ducks a goal why dont yah they clueless in their own zone and that giveaway right down the middle by Liligren just a whole lot of why

Like anything other than 5 on 5 and PP seems to be those two's weakness
Jan. 3 at 10:36 p.m.
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The Leafs are on pace for 50+ shots on net

The Leafs are also on pace to lose 2-0

PAIN
Jan. 3 at 10:41 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 3 at 10:48 p.m.
Anaheim Ducks are dealing with the flu

Carlsson, Strome, Terry, Gudas, etc not in

Leafs outshooting them 31-17

And yet they leading 1-0 thanks to a dumb giveaway and foolish choice by our HC.

This not even accounting for the fact were making Dostal looking like Hasek lul

I get its the second half of a b2b but still.


PP also just be letting them down. Unit 1 just feels off

Honestly should experiment with it

Try new things as clearly its not working rn 0-11
Jan. 3 at 10:50 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 3 at 10:58 p.m.
Please Leafs dont pull a Leaf

I know u like to do it but just dont lul
Jan. 3 at 11:26 p.m.
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Leafs got to stop shooting from distance and drive the net

Got to do something like Vatrano did

As honestly Dostal has them figured out. Need to get creative on him otherwise hes breaking the shutout record
Jan. 3 at 11:31 p.m.
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Leafs got to stop shooting from distance and drive the net

Got to do something like Vatrano did

As honestly Dostal has them figured out. Need to get creative on him otherwise hes breaking the shutout record


They just keep trying to go for distance shots. DRIVE THE NET
Jan. 3 at 11:38 p.m.
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Need to score on this PP

Cant go 0-5
Jan. 3 at 11:39 p.m.
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Need to score on this PP

Cant go 0-5


49 shots. 0 goals. Wild.

Maybe tonight is the night Matthews get his first game winner?
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Jan. 3 at 11:40 p.m.
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Need to score on this PP

Cant go 0-5


EL CAPITAIN
Jan. 3 at 11:44 p.m.
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JT!!!! ON THE 50th SHOT OF THE GAME.... FOR THE LEAFS TO MAKE IT 1-1
Jan. 3 at 11:53 p.m.
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How is that not a goalie interference penalty lul
Jan. 3 at 11:55 p.m.
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PAPI!!!!!!
Jan. 3 at 11:56 p.m.
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49 shots. 0 goals. Wild.

Maybe tonight is the night Matthews get his first game winner?


Hey I called it. I did a thing.
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Jan. 3 at 11:56 p.m.
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Never in doubt
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Jan. 3 at 11:58 p.m.
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Thats probably their hardest earned win of the season

Nothing comes close

Took 50 shots to beat Dostal who was 1-7 coming in

ANA in OT/Shootouts was 7-0

Jones was also good making some good stops even though he played the night before

Now lets see who gets Saturday

Anyways much better than last year in Cali so far. As I believe we were 0-1-2 and it sparked the debate of a century. Rn were 2-0 and one more game to go
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Jan. 4 at 12:01 a.m.
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Thats probably their hardest earned win of the season

Nothing comes close

Took 50 shots to beat Dostal who was 1-7 coming in

ANA in OT/Shootouts was 7-0

Jones was also good making some good stops even though he played the night before

Now lets see who gets Saturday

Anyways much better than last year in Cali so far. As I believe we were 0-1-2 and it sparked the debate of a century. Rn were 2-0 and one more game to go


Jones should get Saturday, unless he is hurt.
 
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