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Created by: littlejerryseinfeld

Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 24, 2023

Published: Dec. 24, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

BUF

Gibson, John ($1,400,000 retained)

ANA

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Pick is top 5 protected. Upgraded to a first for retention

BUF

ARI

Additional Details:

Put on waivers

Buyouts

Christian Ehrhoff: $0

Buried

Jacob Bryson: $700,000 ($1,850,000)
Riley Stillman: $200,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$73,661,070	$0	$5,220,000	$9,838,930

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Thompson, Tage $7,142,857$7,142,857 C UFA - 7	Tuch, Alex $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Peterka, John-Jason $855,833$855,833 ($32,500$32K) LW, RW RFA - 2	Cozens, Dylan $7,100,000$7,100,000 C, LW UFA - 7	Quinn, Jack $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Benson, Zach $950,000$950,000 ($650,000$650K) LW RFA - 3	Mittelstadt, Casey $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, C RFA - 1	Greenway, Jordan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Girgensons, Zemgus $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Krebs, Peyton $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) C, LW RFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle $2,500,000$2,500,000 ($500,000$500K) RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Johnson, Ryan $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 2	Dahlin, Rasmus $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Gibson, John $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
Power, Owen $916,667$916,667 ($1,850,000$2M) LD/RD UFA - 1	Clifton, Connor $3,333,333$3,333,333 RD UFA - 3	Levi, Devon $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) G RFA - 2
Samuelsson, Mattias $4,285,714$4,285,714 LD UFA - 7	Jokiharju, Henri $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Johnson, Erik $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 1
Robinson, Eric $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW UFA - 1
Jost, Tyson $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1

Dec. 24, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.

BUFF36

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Are you paying that much because of wanting them to retain for 3 years ?

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Edited Dec. 24, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.

Quoting: BUFF36

Are you paying that much because of wanting them to retain for 3 years ?

4 years. Have to overpay for a goalie

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.

BUFF36

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

4 years. Gave to overpay for a goalie

Opps, thought it was next year. Sur I guess you count this year depending on when you get him.

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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Anaheim passes

We probably don’t go over $900,000 retention ($5,500,000 aav)

None of those pieces are interesting to us either — we would want a 2024 pick too, not 2025

Dec. 24, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Anaheim passes

We probably don’t go over $900,000 retention ($5,500,000 aav)

None of those pieces are interesting to us either — we would want a 2024 pick too, not 2025

It's John Gibson, not Dominik Hasek and there are plenty of interesting pieces

Dec. 24, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

It's John Gibson, not Dominik Hasek and there are plenty of interesting pieces

UPL? Nah we have Dostal, who is better

A 25 year old AHLer? Nah

A 5’10 160 pounder? Nah, not a Verbeek type of guy

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.

SadSabres90

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Anaheim passes

We probably don’t go over $900,000 retention ($5,500,000 aav)

None of those pieces are interesting to us either — we would want a 2024 pick too, not 2025

Isak Rosen is a very interesting piece as he is a former 1st Rd pick, a top 5 Sabres prospect and loaded with talent.

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.

SadSabres90

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

UPL? Nah we have Dostal, who is better

A 25 year old AHLer? Nah

A 5’10 160 pounder? Nah, not a Verbeek type of guy

UPL is definitely better than Dostal.

Rosen may not be a Verbeek guy, but Verbeek isn't going to be around much longer with his style and roster build.

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 5:15 p.m.

Skyraider112

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A lesser prospect than Rosen probably still gets that trade done

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.

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AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

4 years. Have to overpay for a goalie

Quoting: GeneralLandro

UPL? Nah we have Dostal, who is better

A 25 year old AHLer? Nah

A 5’10 160 pounder? Nah, not a Verbeek type of guy

Those particular pieces might not be a “fit” for the Ducks
*and i realize that matters*
But it’s still an overpay- and for a goalie I’m not sold on

Dec. 24, 2023 at 6:17 p.m.

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GeneralLandro

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

Those particular pieces might not be a “fit” for the Ducks
*and i realize that matters*
But it’s still an overpay- and for a goalie I’m not sold on

That’s fine and dandy but Anaheim also isn’t pressed on trading Gibson either so that’s why it’ll have to be a hearty price

That’s why us Anaheim guys are going to die on that hill

Dec. 24, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.

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AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

That’s fine and dandy but Anaheim also isn’t pressed on trading Gibson either so that’s why it’ll have to be a hearty price

That’s why us Anaheim guys are going to die on that hill

That’s fair
I also don’t really want Gibson
Especially not for the price u guys keep insisting on

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Dec. 24, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.

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GeneralLandro

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

That’s fair
I also don’t really want Gibson
Especially not for the price u guys keep insisting on

Apparently Verbeek is standing strong on his price so that’s good for us!

Dec. 24, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.

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AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Apparently Verbeek is standing strong on his price so that’s good for us!

Kinda
It’s only good for you if someone actually meets his price

Dec. 26, 2023 at 4:31 a.m.

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Burnzie8_88_4Cup

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I think when Girgs comes back, we’ll have 25, the 2 waivers will be Comrie and I’m thinking Robinson because Jost can play C.

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