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Created by: AusCanuck
Team: 2024-25 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 26, 2023
Published: Dec. 27, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$11,000,000
8$7,000,000
2$1,100,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,000,000
5$4,000,000
2$2,000,000
2$900,000
2$850,000
Trades
VAN
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,000,000$85,996,667$0$475,000$1,003,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 8
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW
UFA
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$475,000$475K)
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
C
RFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RD
RFA
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
RFA
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
LW
UFA
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
C
UFA
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 27, 2023 at 12:28 a.m.
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Don't see anyway the hawks pay anything for garland. They might take him for free if you really need the cap space.
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Dec. 27, 2023 at 12:30 a.m.
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I can see it happening either on Draft Day 2024 or in the off-season, in my opinion.
Dec. 27, 2023 at 12:36 a.m.
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Don't see anyway the hawks pay anything for garland. They might take him for free if you really need the cap space.


Haha, thanks for the laugh. Garland's been our best player for the past month. I don't know why Canuck fans continue to try and throw him away for a mid-round pick.
Dec. 27, 2023 at 12:43 a.m.
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Haha, thanks for the laugh. Garland's been our best player for the past month. I don't know why Canuck fans continue to try and throw him away for a mid-round pick.


Keep him. Hawks will stay the course.
Dec. 27, 2023 at 12:56 a.m.
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Keep him. Hawks will stay the course.


Yeah, that was the point of my comment. It wasn't some reverse psychology trick.
Dec. 27, 2023 at 8:30 a.m.
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If Peterson signs 8 year deal, should and will be for a higher ticket than that. Reinhart gets more too.
Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:01 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:07 a.m.
Quoting: westleysnipez
Haha, thanks for the laugh. Garland's been our best player for the past month. I don't know why Canuck fans continue to try and throw him away for a mid-round pick.


It's because most people understand that one month doesn't make up for 2 years. Most players ride hot streaks/play above their norm for stretches from time to time.

What I find funny is how many fans post that X player has good value "now" when they play good for a short stretch, the player usually always regresses back to their norm shortly after.

When Garland has played 82 games at his current level of play I'll be more convinced he's worth most/all of his current contract.
Dec. 28, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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It's because most people understand that one month doesn't make up for 2 years. Most players ride hot streaks/play above their norm for stretches from time to time.

What I find funny is how many fans post that X player has good value "now" when they play good for a short stretch, the player usually always regresses back to their norm shortly after.

When Garland has played 82 games at his current level of play I'll be more convinced he's worth most/all of his current contract.


What do you mean, "make up for two years?"

Garland has always been a great player. The problem Canucks fan have with him is his cap hit, because we live in a cap world and fans get mad if a player might only be worth 90% of their cap hit. They see almost 5M playing in the middle-six and lose their minds because they think Garland's not good enough to be played in the top six. When you have genuine forward depth, as the Canucks do, you can spread out your skill and minutes to make your entire team better.

Since 2021, Garland has been 55th among forwards in points at 5v5 over the past two seasons with 78. He's tied with JT Miller for points at 5v5, higher than players like Marchand, Reinhart, Suzuki, Tavares, and Tuch in fewer games played. Garland gets minimal PP time since the top unit is usually out there for 1:40 each powerplay. I'm sure if the Canucks had injuries to Pettersson, Miller, or Boeser, Garland would be one of the first choices to come in to join PP1. You want a guy who is able to contribute goals while not on the powerplay. There are only 54 players you could upgrade to and of that list only 2 (Stephenson, Duchene) by my count have a lesser cap hit than Garland does.
Source: https://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

Garland's also been phenomenal defensively, a CF% of 52 for his past two seasons in Vancouver, on two bottom-10 teams that's remarkable. Among forwards over those two seasons: 51st in Takeaways/60 (min. 100 mins played), 93rd in CF% REL, a PDO of 101.6 when the rest of VAN was averaging about 96.8.

It blows me away that Canuck fans still want to trade him after the blueline problems have been resolved because they wrongly believe he's overpaid. Garland is a big reason the 3rd line is gelling so well, he's the reason teams are now having to split their best defensemen up across three lines instead of two. Garland's an absolute beast, and I'm tired of the disrespect he gets on these forums. Any team in this league would kill to have a player like him.
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Dec. 30, 2023 at 10:14 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 30, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
Quoting: westleysnipez
What do you mean, "make up for two years?"

Garland has always been a great player. The problem Canucks fan have with him is his cap hit, because we live in a cap world and fans get mad if a player might only be worth 90% of their cap hit. They see almost 5M playing in the middle-six and lose their minds because they think Garland's not good enough to be played in the top six. When you have genuine forward depth, as the Canucks do, you can spread out your skill and minutes to make your entire team better.

Since 2021, Garland has been 55th among forwards in points at 5v5 over the past two seasons with 78. He's tied with JT Miller for points at 5v5, higher than players like Marchand, Reinhart, Suzuki, Tavares, and Tuch in fewer games played. Garland gets minimal PP time since the top unit is usually out there for 1:40 each powerplay. I'm sure if the Canucks had injuries to Pettersson, Miller, or Boeser, Garland would be one of the first choices to come in to join PP1. You want a guy who is able to contribute goals while not on the powerplay. There are only 54 players you could upgrade to and of that list only 2 (Stephenson, Duchene) by my count have a lesser cap hit than Garland does.
Source: https://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

Garland's also been phenomenal defensively, a CF% of 52 for his past two seasons in Vancouver, on two bottom-10 teams that's remarkable. Among forwards over those two seasons: 51st in Takeaways/60 (min. 100 mins played), 93rd in CF% REL, a PDO of 101.6 when the rest of VAN was averaging about 96.8.

It blows me away that Canuck fans still want to trade him after the blueline problems have been resolved because they wrongly believe he's overpaid. Garland is a big reason the 3rd line is gelling so well, he's the reason teams are now having to split their best defensemen up across three lines instead of two. Garland's an absolute beast, and I'm tired of the disrespect he gets on these forums. Any team in this league would kill to have a player like him.


It’s not just Canucks fans that have a problem with his cap hit, it’s all 32 NHL teams, no one was willing to take him for free, or partially retained. Vancouver hasn’t had that much top 6 depth on the wings for the past two seasons and Garland has not played well enough to be able to secure a spot in the top 6, and he’s had opportunities. Kuzmenko (and Miller when playing wing) was the only legit top 6 winger last year, Boeser and Mikheyev have been been playing legit top 6 this year. The team has literally been trying all of their wingers on the top two lines to try and find someone to work on both the 1st and 2nd lines because they don't have enough legit top 6 wingers.

None of the rest of what you posted matters. Teams don't want him at his cap hit, neither did/does Vancouver, at his current cap hit. Him playing 4.95M+ winger hockey for "one month" doesn't significantly change his value when compared to the long term, i.e. the last two years he's been with the team.

A player can be "good" and still be undesirable, everything is about cap hit in the modern cap-era of the NHL.
 
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