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Which of these teams has the best chance of giving Ottawa a 1st for Tarasenko

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 7, 2024
Published: Jan. 7, 2024
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Bruce Garrioch recently reported that we'll be approaching Tarasenko to ask him about waiving his NTC.

I would have preferred making a serious push to sign Tarasenko to an extension instead.

To avoid the possibility of getting fleeced by some other team yet again.

But here we are.



Here are the 10 ways for answering the question:



1. New York Rangers

2. Vancouver Canucks

3. Florida Panthers

4. Los Angeles Kings

5. Dallas Stars

6. Vegas Golden Knights

7. Carolina Hurricanes

8. Washington Capitals

9. Edmonton Oilers

10. One of the other 22 teams in the NHL (Please Specify)
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. 2024 1st round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
The Rangers are only on this list because they spent a 1st on Tarasenko before.


No other reason.
2.
OTT
  1. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
    Tarasenko
    3.
    OTT
    1. 2026 1st round pick (FLA)
    FLA
      Tarasenko
      4.
      OTT
      1. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
      LAK
        Tarasenko
        5.
        OTT
        1. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
        DAL
          Tarasenko
          6.
          OTT
          1. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
          VGK
            Tarasenko
            7.
            OTT
            1. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
            CAR
              Tarasenko
              8.
              OTT
              1. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
              WSH
                Tarasenko
                9.
                OTT
                1. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
                EDM
                  Tarasenko
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                  2024
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                  Logo of the OTT
                  2025
                  Logo of the OTT
                  Logo of the OTT
                  Logo of the OTT
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                  2026
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                  20$83,500,000$81,742,380$0$1,850,000$1,757,620
                  Left WingCentreRight Wing
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $8,205,714$8,205,714
                  LW
                  UFA - 5
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $8,350,000$8,350,000
                  C
                  UFA - 8
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                  $6,500,000$6,500,000
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                  UFA - 2
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                  $2,950,000$2,950,000
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                  UFA - 3
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                  $7,950,000$7,950,000
                  C
                  UFA - 7
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                  $4,975,000$4,975,000
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                  UFA - 4
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $2,000,000$2,000,000
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                  RFA - 1
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $863,333$863,333
                  C, LW
                  RFA - 2
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                  $2,500,000$2,500,000
                  LW, RW
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $762,500$762,500
                  LW
                  RFA - 1
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                  $835,000$835,000
                  C, RW
                  RFA - 2
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $775,000$775,000
                  RW, C
                  UFA - 3
                  Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $8,000,000$8,000,000
                  LD
                  UFA - 5
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $4,600,000$4,600,000
                  RD
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 4
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $4,000,000$4,000,000
                  G
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 5
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $4,600,000$4,600,000
                  LD/RD
                  M-NTC
                  UFA - 2
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $805,000$805,000
                  RD
                  RFA - 2
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $2,750,000$2,750,000
                  G
                  UFA - 2
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
                  LD
                  UFA - 1
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $1,100,000$1,100,000
                  RD
                  NMC
                  UFA - 2
                  ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                  Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                  $775,000$775,000
                  C
                  UFA - 1

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                  Jan. 7 at 2:03 p.m.
                  #1
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                  Don't think anyone would want to pony up a 1rst for Tarasenko TBH...

                  Most teams have his role and skill set already filled
                  Jan. 7 at 2:04 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Leafsfan98
                  Don't think anyone would want to pony up a 1rst for Tarasenko TBH...

                  Most teams have his role and skill set already filled


                  That doesn't answer the question.
                  Jan. 7 at 2:13 p.m.
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                  LAK is already in cap trouble and will be in even more when Arvidsson is back from LTIR. Based on that I view them being takers on Tarasenko as minimal.
                  NYR needs top 6 winger but I suspect Drury to not to go for familiarity, but we will see.
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                  Jan. 7 at 2:14 p.m.
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                  I dont think its the rangers, lots of talk that they dont wanna bring back players from last year (Senko/Kane) and make it feel like theyre just running it back after the utter failure last year
                  Jan. 7 at 2:15 p.m.
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                  Canucks are not giving away their first round pick for Tarasenko.
                  No thanks.
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                  Jan. 7 at 2:18 p.m.
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                  Quoting: sensonfire
                  That doesn't answer the question.


                  There's going to be not as many teams as you think interested in Tarasenko, meaning the price will go down
                  Jan. 7 at 2:19 p.m.
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                  I think the rangers use their first rder for a center. No disrespect to Tank, center is just a bigger need imo
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                  Jan. 7 at 2:21 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Leafsfan98
                  There's going to be not as many teams as you think interested in Tarasenko, meaning the price will go down


                  That doesn't answer the question.
                  Jan. 7 at 2:22 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Vancity2196
                  Canucks are not giving away their first round pick for Tarasenko.
                  No thanks.


                  That doesn't answer the question.
                  Jan. 7 at 2:22 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Kravtsov_Stan
                  I dont think its the rangers, lots of talk that they dont wanna bring back players from last year (Senko/Kane) and make it feel like theyre just running it back after the utter failure last year


                  Who do you think it might be instead ?
                  Jan. 7 at 2:23 p.m.
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                  Quoting: SlimTJ100
                  I think the rangers use their first rder for a center. No disrespect to Tank, center is just a bigger need imo


                  Who do you think might spend a 1st on Tarasenko instead ?
                  Jan. 7 at 2:30 p.m.
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                  Quoting: sensonfire
                  That doesn't answer the question.


                  I meant why would he be a good fit for the Canucks?
                  Jan. 7 at 2:32 p.m.
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                  I suggest Edmonton, but Ottawa would have to take money back (in most of these cases)
                  Jan. 7 at 2:39 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Vancity2196
                  I meant why would he be a good fit for the Canucks?


                  With the Canucks making the playoffs, their 1st is going to be late.

                  They could use someone who's a proven veteran in the playoffs and who has already won the Cup before.

                  Not to mention, the Canucks have several Russian players on their team, some of whom are also wingers and who might have good offensive chemistry with Tarasenko.

                  And there's been a few Canucks AGMs lately that involve bringing in Tarasenko FWIW.



                  Going back to my original question, if the Canucks are not a good fit for Tarasenko, which other NHL team might be instead ?
                  Jan. 7 at 2:46 p.m.
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                  Quoting: sensonfire
                  Who do you think it might be instead ?


                  Maybe Carolina? Theyve always struggled with scoring in the playoffs and they have a hole there.

                  I will say though dont get your hopes up i dont think its a guarantee Senko gwts you a first, definitely a possibility, not a guarantee
                  Jan. 7 at 2:51 p.m.
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                  Quoting: sensonfire
                  That doesn't answer the question.


                  It does, because the answer is more likely to be no then a team
                  Jan. 7 at 2:53 p.m.
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                  Maybe Carolina? Theyve always struggled with scoring in the playoffs and they have a hole there.

                  I will say though dont get your hopes up i dont think its a guarantee Senko gwts you a first, definitely a possibility, not a guarantee


                  You're absolutely right that it's not a guarantee.

                  We didn't even get a 1st for Mark Stone.

                  There's definitely a possibility we only get an AHL scrub + a 3rd for Tarasenko.

                  But his trade history says otherwise.

                  We'll see what happens.
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                  Jan. 7 at 2:59 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Leafsfan98
                  It does, because the answer is more likely to be no then a team


                  No, it doesn't.

                  The question is in the title of this AGM.



                  "Which of these teams has the best chance of giving Ottawa a 1st for Tarasenko ?"



                  That means you name the team that has the best chance of giving Ottawa a 1st for Tarasenko.

                  You can even pick a team that isn't listed here.



                  The only response you gave was that nobody will pay a 1st for a Tarasenko.

                  That doesn't answer the question.

                  Try again.
                  Jan. 7 at 3:08 p.m.
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                  Not many teams are likely to pony up a 1st for Tarasenko. I mean, of the teams you have listed, LA, Dallas, Edmonton, Florida, and Vegas aren’t likely to be able to afford without cap being sent back or extra retention. Washington is more than likely going to be sellers, so they aren’t likely to spend a first at the deadline. Not sounding likely that Vancouver moves their 1st rounder this year, and the Rangers sound like they aren’t looking to bring back their rentals from last season. As for the Canes, I have my doubts they consider Tarasenko with what transpired in the offseason.

                  Sens might be able to get a conditional 2nd based on a team winning the cup (at which point it upgrades to a 1st), assuming Tarasenko has retention with him. Doubt there is as much interest as people seem to think.
                  Jan. 7 at 3:08 p.m.
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                  Quoting: sensonfire
                  No, it doesn't.

                  The question is in the title of this AGM.



                  "Which of these teams has the best chance of giving Ottawa a 1st for Tarasenko ?"



                  That means you name the team that has the best chance of giving Ottawa a 1st for Tarasenko.

                  You can even pick a team that isn't listed here.



                  The only response you gave was that nobody will pay a 1st for a Tarasenko.

                  That doesn't answer the question.

                  Try again.


                  Yes, there is...

                  There isn't a team that will give Ottawa a 1rst for Tarasenko... That's my response...

                  The "best chance" for Ottawa us Tarasenko being packaged up with someone to combine for a 1rst, most likely a Zub type impact player to a team who lacks scoring and needs to replace a defensemen or stack up on defence...

                  Best guess for that would be Carolina or EDM
                  Jan. 7 at 3:17 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Leafsfan98
                  Yes, there is...

                  There isn't a team that will give Ottawa a 1rst for Tarasenko... That's my response...

                  The "best chance" for Ottawa us Tarasenko being packaged up with someone to combine for a 1rst, most likely a Zub type impact player to a team who lacks scoring and needs to replace a defensemen or stack up on defence...

                  Best guess for that would be Carolina or EDM


                  Carolina or Edmonton it is.

                  Thank you for sort of answering the question after several failed attempts.

                  Have a nice day.
                  Jan. 7 at 3:20 p.m.
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                  Quoting: sensonfire
                  Carolina or Edmonton it is.

                  Thank you for sort of answering the question after several failed attempts.

                  Have a nice day.


                  You should've rephrase the question then...

                  You should've done: Which teams are more likely to have interest in Tarasenko?
                  Jan. 7 at 3:25 p.m.
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                  Quoting: evelutions2
                  Not many teams are likely to pony up a 1st for Tarasenko. I mean, of the teams you have listed, LA, Dallas, Edmonton, Florida, and Vegas aren’t likely to be able to afford without cap being sent back or extra retention. Washington is more than likely going to be sellers, so they aren’t likely to spend a first at the deadline. Not sounding likely that Vancouver moves their 1st rounder this year, and the Rangers sound like they aren’t looking to bring back their rentals from last season. As for the Canes, I have my doubts they consider Tarasenko with what transpired in the offseason.

                  Sens might be able to get a conditional 2nd based on a team winning the cup (at which point it upgrades to a 1st), assuming Tarasenko has retention with him. Doubt there is as much interest as people seem to think.


                  Whether there is stuff like cap being sent back or third party retention is irrelevant.

                  What is relevant in this AGM is which team has the best chance of giving Ottawa a 1st for Tarasenko.



                  All you did was explain why the listed teams would not pay a 1st for Tarasenko.

                  That doesn't answer the question.



                  Let me ask you again.

                  Which team has the best chance of giving a 1st for Tarasenko ?
                  Jan. 7 at 3:27 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Leafsfan98
                  You should've rephrase the question then...

                  You should've done: Which teams are more likely to have interest in Tarasenko?


                  I'll post AGMs and ask questions on here however I please.

                  There's nothing you can do about it ...
                  Jan. 7 at 3:45 p.m.
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                  Tank is currently playing at a 60 point pace and is a +8 on the 4th worst team in the league, he is a playoff performer and won a cup, many teams hoping to win it this year will be calling for Tank and yes a 1st is what OTT should get.
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