Maybe. I would give him 4 years at 5.5 tops

As said hes to small and while hes doing some stuff on a non competitive team against BOS or FLA this is not the guy we need

MMM not enough

Hes gonna be in 6-7m range

As he is such a nice 2-way defender, is 28, and basically is someone lot of teams gonna eye

That would be like a Demelo deal

Can we get a shot on net this period lul

Bertuzzi Hatty

Hey 3 guys in double digit goals now on this teams besides the big 4

I get the argument but I think if he was 3 inches taller everyone would want him.

Compared to Carrier vs Andersson
Blocked Shots: 105 vs 122
Hits: 51 vs 32
Giveaways: 13 vs 42
D-Zone Giveaways: 4 vs 37

Carrier is more physical, more responsible defensively.

Advanced analytics:



Carrier plays harder minutes and performs better.

If hes better why he third pair in NSH under Schenn and Fabbro....

In general as said before not who they need especially going up against FLA or BOS


Both Andersson and Larsson be minute eating top pair guys rn. These are the guys to target not a guy who on a fringe team be third pair and whose undersized.

Nashville does what Toronto did in the playoffs last year when they had Brodie/McCabe play the hard minutes so that Rielly could play lower competition.

Lauzon and Carrier play the minutes against top lines. As you can see by his role difficulty. He's essentially a defensive specialist playing top players.

How is that not exactly what the leafs need a DFD to pair with Rielly.

You think Andersson, the pure OFD who is a turnover machine in the D zone is what we need? Especially when he costs 5x more.

As said before and will end it with this as its getting silly

Carrier is undersized and not what we need going against FLA or BOS

They will eat him alive and going from 3rd pair to top pair is a NTU. Get Rielly someone who fits his playstyle aka Adam Larsson 6'3 210 pounds 100 + hits and blocks and more takeaways than giveaways

As for Andersson would be partnered with Brodie if he came with Liligren getting a little promotion

I'm somewhat with you here. Size bias in the NHL has mostly been left in the past. Big guys (especially prospects) tend to be just as skilled since we ditched the refrigerator players. Going Small is no longer a competitive advantage

Like yes the Avs won a cup with some undersized Dman but look at the names

VGK gave the formula for what u need. And sure there be some small really good players but man do you want Rielly to be paired with someone undersized

Dont get me wrong if we needed 2 Dman I would eye Carrier but with how Benoit-McCabe and Brodie-Liligren are rn only guy is a top 4 partner for Rielly and there's someone who fits that in SEA.

And also small forwards can make an impact its just so hard for Dman unless they Cale Makar lul

Bert just got that dawg in him tonight

Domi had a 2 goal game vs. VGK

Bertuzzi 3 goals vs. AVS

Larsson's Quality of Competition is 48%, Carrier is 91%.

It's more accurate to say Larsson would be going from playing against 2nd/3rd lines to 1st lines with Rielly and Carrier would go from playing 1st lines to 1st lines.

I get that physicality is a big part of the playoffs but the "physical" difference between Carrier and Andersson is 2 inches. Carrier hits, Andersson doesn't. I think their hit numbers show how they would do in the playoffs more than their side. Most of the players that play tough on Boston/Tampa are small guys.

Cousins - 5'11
Forsling - 6'0
Montour - 6'0
Marchand - 5'9
Greyzlick - 5'10
Pastarnak - 6'0


I just don't see the value in getting players that are worse by every measurable stat just cause being taller could be an advantage. Especially when that advantage is in hitting where Carrier still has better stats.

Go look at the Blue Line VGK used to win the cup. Size be what wins cups and big blue lines be the formula

U can have some undersized forwards ask Marchessault but for Blue liners u want big

A 5'10 under 200 pound Dman who u want in top pair wont do well

For perspective on size and stuff the last 2 cup winners Dcores

VGK 2023

Hague 6'6 230 pounds
McNabb 6'4 201 pounds
Pietrangelo 6'3 215 pounds
Hutton 6'3 (7th) 201 pounds
Whitecloud 6'2 207 pounds
Theodore 6'2 197 pounds
Martinez 6'1 210 pounds


AVS 2022

MacDermid 6'5 233 pounds (7th Dman)
E.Johnsson 6'4 225 pounds
Manson 6'3 218 pounds
Byram 6'1 190 pounds
J.Johnsson 6'1 227 pounds
Makar 5'11 187 pounds (who cares this guys one of the best Dman in the NHL)
Girard 5'10 170 pounds (inj)


Leafs (2024)

Benoit 6'3 203 pounds
Brodie 6'2 187 pounds
Rielly 6'1 225 pounds
McCabe 6'1 204 pounds
Liligren 6'1 192 pounds
Lagesson 6'2 211 pounds
Gio 6'0 205 pounds

And for perspective

Larsson 6'3 210 pounds
Andersson 6'1 202 pounds

One criticism for the ending

JT WTF were u doing just shoot on the empty net why u looking to pass

As man that was to close

He'll be 29 to start the contract turning 30 I believe. He's the same age as Rielly. Roy is good and someone may overpay him but it's always hard to tell.

Even at 29 thats not a bad age for a Dman like him

Like this is a guy who once upon a time was a 7th round draft pick

Severson got 6.5m and with this FA not having a lot of great Dman besides 5 (Roy, Demelo, Dillon, Pesce, and Forsling)

Hanifin I dont think makes it when hes traded

We saw last year what good Dman were going for and in FA you overpay to get what yah want

Rn I got Roy at 6.5m x 6 years and Demelo at 5.5m x 4 years. Pesce is to big of a gamble to me as hes been a bit off

While I have been a staunch supporter of this argument for a long time. I am just sick to death of seeing other teams in the playoffs, do whatever they want and never draw a penalty. If you can't beat em join em. I big mean brute will be more effective once the refs put away the whistles in the playoffs. It happens every year.

I agree, if we are talking getting Tkachuk vs Marner but this is advocating for a big soft bad player vs small hard-nosed good player.

But again maybe we try to get a bunch of goons and see how it goes, works for Boston.

My Larsson idea is growing lul

The floodgates be open now

https://twitter.com/josephdzita/status/1761594952419619067

@Random2152

This just be to funny and highlights your point perfectly

Honestly Rielly ignited this team

They have won 7 in a row for the first time since 2003

Depth has come alive

Sammy has come alive 9-1 last 10 games with a 2.19 gaa and a 0.915sv

Matthews, Marner, and Willy are leading the charge

JT made the ultimate sacrifice still allowing our #1 PP to stay hot but also reinvent the third line a bit

And the D-Pairings are coming together. Get Rielly a proper partner and maybe consider a bottom 6 guy and your set.